Harper apologizes


 

Is this a first?

“During my press conference, I attacked Mr. Ignatieff for some things he had allegedly said about Canada and the G8,” Harper said. “I learned shortly after the press conference this was not a quotation of Mr. Ignatieff. I regret the error and I apologize to Mr. Ignatieff for this error.”


 

Harper apologizes

  1. Wow! It may not be a first, but it certainly is rare.

  2. Yes.

    Poor Soudas is probably finished as Press Secretary. Could that mean the return of the Sparrow?

  3. Does this mean Harper takes back saying Ignatieff "is supposed to be Canadian"?
    Next thing you know our Prime Minister is going to be saying that Ignatieff is a real Canadian.

    • And he isn't just visiting after all.

      • I wouldn't say he's just visiting…more like here on a temporary work visa.

    • From seeing his whole apology, he clearly did not apologize for all the stuff he added on his own, questioning whether Ignatieff was even Canadian. Harper is a bit sickening.

  4. Soudas is sooooooooo dead!

  5. His next step should be a phone call to Ignatieff. A personal apology is in order.

    • Well played Douglass. Not sure where the ad hominen troll came from… have any angry conservative ex girlfriends? That much bile usually involves a jilted ex-lover or just chemical imbalances…

      • Nope, no clue where all that anger came from. Certainly nothing little old me precipitated.

    • I bet he gets right on that, just as soon as he figures out which American area code Ignatieff's phone is registered to.

  6. Harper, at the closing news conference at the G8 summit here,

    … apologized for unfairly dissing Iggy, defended himself against the media's self-parodying fascination with his starch-ingestion activities at a funeral, and marveled at another world leader's ability to remain politically viable despite many scandals. There's the CanWest report in a nutshell.

    I don't suppose there was any question on the economy or on international trade that came up at this G8 press conference? "Cuz that fluff didn't make it into the report.

    • Why would anyone bother asking him about the economy? He's just going to say that the Canadian economy is on the verge of rebounding in a glorious way, and that within the next 18 months we will see employment rates of 129% or more, a gazillion dollar surplus, and free kittens for everybody. Oh, and that Iggy is just visiting, tax and spend Liberals, true north strong and free, etc…

      There's no sense asking him real questions since he never gives an answer. Plus it's much more fun to gossip about his latest bout of buffoonery. It is summer, after all.

    • He sets the agenda by his words and actions.

  7. Yeah, Harper just usually hangs someone else out to dry,like that speech he copped from The Ozzie PM, and the pooping puffin. You know, it's all about accountability somehow.

  8. Like living in Canada makes you Candian. How Canadian are Quebec Seperatists or for that matter former reform party members? Canada is not all about corporate welfare and putting the interests of business ahead of the people so in my mind Ignatieff is more Canadian than Harper.

    • Well, if living in Canada has nothing to do with being Canadian, then what makes someone Canadian? Does just wantng to be the PM make you Canadian?

      • "It's wanting to be PM when I'm already PM that makes you not a Canadian."

        I believe I heard, or someone who reliably heard, or read or saw somewhere, perhaps suggested very recently these words.

    • Almost any Canadian is less of an embarassment than Harper these days, who can't even confine his meanspirited nature and bullying attacks to within our borders. However, let's leave the idiotic discussion of which Canadians are more Canadian to Harper and his lackeys. Canada is better than they are behaving.

      • Stop being such a bully.

        • I see you are on the threads posting insults about other posters. Emulating your leader, hey?

  9. Well, I think he called the Parliamentary Budget Officer "dumb" and suggested the projected deficits can all be eliminated without spending cuts or tax increases.

  10. He's apologized for residential school abuse, for the pooping puffin, for Komagara Maru, for (to) Arar.

    The problem is there is so much more he should be apologizing for that it seems so unusual when he does apologize.

    • Yes but there is a difference in apologizing for something that you had no part in; ie residential school and Komagara Maru. These took place decades ago and Harper's role in making the apology was by virtue of the office he currently occupies, not for anything he personally is responible for. That's how he is able to make the apology without it looking like he did anything wrong or that might reflect poorly on him. The stuff that he did wrong, that he goofed up on or is otehrwise responsible for, he doesn't normally apologize for this (unless it's in the midst of an election scramble, ie poopping puffin).
      As a rule, the man cannot take responsibility for his mistakes.

  11. Wayne? Jarrid? Kody? Sacre Bleu? Where are you? You are usually so eager to share your great thoughts with us.

    An eager Macleans.ca blog readership awaits with bated breath …

    • Wayne here : I have been laughing so hard my stomach huirts .. what a perfect day for harper all this press no real scandals anywhere in sight instead we got waffling wafrers and staff who got a bit ahead of themselves … LMAO – poor Iggy how is he going to some press after all of this because anyone with half a brain realizes that all the media are going to be highliting the harper hating stuff and ignoring Poor Iggy – man you couldn't design this stuff or plan this one — brilliant truly brilliant! Be honest folks none of this is going to cost a single vote anywhere it's all fluff and in the meantime full spead ahead harper agenda – poor frustrated left wing nuts who don't know a real scandal when they see one!

  12. Oh, I see Sacrebleu has put on his tin foil hat and leapt into the fray.

  13. See SacreBleu's idiocy above.

  14. Iggy should tell Harper to shove his apology up his ass. Firstly, this vindictive ass clown of a PM does not carry a whit of sincerity in any deed, thought or action. Secondly, I embarassed having this dumb clod running around the world representing us.
    Harper, go finish writing your hockey book. If, it isn't another load of BS you've made up.

    • "Mr Ignatieff is supposed to be a Canadian."
      I don't see how you can apologize for that, or accept an apology which would be patently insincere. The mistake about the G8 quote is one thing; this takes it to a different level. This questions partriotism, and gets up there with the treason charges of December.

      • Agreed! It certainly gives us a taste of how he thinks, and what will sadly come.
        Always looking to jab that blade….. so sad!

  15. Apology or no, why is it so often Harper's instinct to question the patriotism of his rivals? (Dion was "talking down Canada" when he suggested a recession might come, the whole Iggy is "just visiting" thing, and he waved the flag more than once when the coalition was a threat.).

    It's unseemly at best, and reminiscent of McCarthyism in a less kindly light. I understand federal political life is a dogfight these days, but I think it diminishes us all – and fosters an unhealthy form of nationalism – when anyone goes around questioning the patriotism of others as a rhetorical jab.

    • Shouldn't the PM be a patriot? Or is it ok to have a person run the country who only wants be Canadian when it will benefit him?

  16. I quickly asked the other 29,999,999 Canadians, and none of them like your post.

  17. SacreBleu writes a lot like TieGuy. In fact, I've come to the conclusion that there are a whole host of fictional characters /stereotypes (and amphibious Muppets) that some person is generating from parts unknown. And posting here.

    A big mindf**k. Brilliant.

    • Well this muppet for one has had enough. After reading the transcript, I don't care if what Soudis was telling Harper WAS correct. There's a time and place. This wasn't it.

      • Don't give up yet. He aspires to change by 2050.

        • An " aspirational goal ", no doubt.

    • Amphibious muppets? You mean me? Derek, I'm surprised that you would be stupid enough to lump me in with TieGuy.

      • "Juan Adolfo " it wasn't just me. I took a poll in English, French, German, Spanish, Russian and a few others that I am too tone deaf to recognize.

        Since TieGuy had also claimed proficiency, I just put two and two together. But, I could be wrong. Definitely out of my league.

        • Dot, maybe this will help clear things up. A glitch in IntenseDebate: when you create a poll using the new "Add Poll" function, it is routed through a generic Polldaddy user account that has a picture of some Hispanic-looking dude. Any IntenseDebate user, in any country, in any language who creates a poll using that ID function will find themselves routed through the same generic Polldaddy account.

          I only comment using my own name or my pseudonym, Critical Reasoning. Please don't cast aspersions on my good name again.

        • Dot, maybe this will help clear things up. A glitch in IntenseDebate: when you create a poll using the new "Add Poll" function, it is routed through a generic Polldaddy user account that has a picture of some Hispanic-looking dude. Any IntenseDebate user, in any country, in any language who creates a poll using the "Add Poll" function will find themselves routed through the same generic Polldaddy account.

          I only comment using my own name or my pseudonym, Critical Reasoning. Please don't cast aspersions on my good name again.

          • Correct. That is not me.

          • Well, I perhaps stand corrected.

            Btw, if you may recall, I thought TieGuy should not be excluded here (the only one who spoke up for him as I recall), as I think he was also "brilliant".

            Some may consider it an insult. I didn't.

          • He still posts here, as "Anon".

      • There is no chance CR is the same person as Sacre Bleu. I may disagree with you on occasion CR, but you have always been respectful. I have never heard you go off on a tirade as that other person so skillfully did.

        Also you seem to know that I'm a woman, where as that Sacre Bleu seemed to go on and on about that awful man Douglass. Lol!

        • LOL, Douglass.

        • LOL, Douglass. Thanks!

  18. Well, Harper – get at Timex so you can get out of the washroom in time for photo-ops, try to understand that you don't make domestic partisan shots at an "international" summit – on the world stage and don't call people dumb who have as much economical degrees as you and don't tell the press they've reached the lowest level (wafergate – when a Catholic woman who was upset brought it up in the first place and the upset was shared by a priest).

    And – you said, Mr. Harper, when you put Ryan Sparrow in detention that you set the tone – it shows.

  19. Harper has used international conferences to wage domestic political war before. This happened in Bali and, I think, at a NATO conference on Afghanistan. Other governments' representatives and members international press have made derisive comments about Harper's team's penchant for mudslinging and obstructionism.

    My question: where is Foreign Affairs in this?
    Seriously, that ministry has all but vanished from the public eye.

    • We have minister's? Really? I thought this was a one man show. All Harper all the time!

    • I seem to remember hiding my head in shame at some cheap shots Harper took at the Liberals in Australia a couple of years ago.

      • In all fairness, I may be thinking of Baird in Bali — but he's just the mouthpiece — the vitriol comes from the top.
        Yes, the Australia trip was a low point I had forgotten … damn, now I have to forget it all over again.

        I can't imagine how uncomfortable Canada's overseas representatives must feel after their political bosses jet back to Ottawa.

        • Peter Kent will get to after he ponders his navel a bit more about Honduras.

    • "This happened in Bali and, I think, at a NATO conference on Afghanistan."

      I'm pretty sure they make a point of it.

  20. What I'd like to know is, where was Pierre Poilievre while PMSH was apologizing? Would he have been visiting a Radio station?

  21. Harper, apologizing….am I still in last night's dream?

  22. Surprisingly, this is not the first time Harper has apologized for one of his smears. The first was way back in 2002 when he apologized to Svend Robinson. Still, he's done pretty well since then: he, or members of his party, accused Paul Martin of supporting child pornography, accused Liberals of caring more about the Taliban than the CF and of trying to cover up the Air India bombing, got David Dingwall fired over a receipt for a pack of gum that was never reimbursed, falsely accused Lucienne Robillard and Marlene Jennings of giving patronage appointments to their spouses, accused Tim Murphy of offering a bribe and presented a doctored audiotape as evidence, and the list goes on and on. The man is a cancer on our politics.

  23. Was anyone else struck by the wording of this apology? He said:

    "I learned shortly after the press conference this was not a quotation of Mr. Ignatieff."

    Doesn't that seem to imply (or rather conversationally implicate, to use technical linguistics jargon), that while it was not a quotation of Iggy's it could still very well be what Iggy thinks? Consider I say "John said Canadians are douches." And then it turns out he did not say that, and I'm forced to apologize. If I said "I learned that that was not a quotation of John's" it not only leaves open the possibility that he said something very much like that but not in those words, it can be heard as suggesting just that.

    Now, I don't know if this apology was off-the-cuff, but I somehow doubt it. You'd think they pore over each word. Has me wondering…

    • Much as I believe that Harper is a "douche", and much as I appreciate any attempt to point out his flaws, I think you are over-analyzing.

    • Harper wove a entire smear theme from this alleged quotation about Ignatieff not being a real Canadian. This quote just gave him an opportunity to peddle his dirt. Harper can't apologize for gleefully running on the international stage with a wrong quote and making up a entire narrative on it because then he would be apologizing for being the person he is. Harper will be up to the same dirty stuff again next week or so.

      • Sadly, I have to concur.
        Harper – Not a team player.
        When will he learn that whether others like or not, he is the main man.
        Why can't he act the part?

  24. yeah probably. It just sort of struck me.

  25. When is the national media going to stand up and say this emperor has no clothes?
    Some one should write a book, a newspaper or magazine would not be big enough, just listng all of the times Harper has not told the truth.
    Layton doesn't routinely tell lies, Ignatieff does not tell lies, May is not a liar, even most members of the Cabinet are pretty much truth tellers. Why is Harper not held to any normal ethical standard?

    • Woo Hoo! There have been some laughable posts today but yours is a real gem! What's next? Harper eats babies and invented Sars!

      The tin foil hat party is packed!

      • I was hoping for Jarrid

        • Sorry to disappoint.

          • Are you Jarrid?

  26. All the Lib-Lefties are giggly today! Lots of patty cake and back patting. Don't get too giddy though, it'll be Ignatieff with his foot in his mouth soon enough. The man can't stand not being on the front page.

    • What are you, three?

    • Iggy's laying low; political science rule #1; when your opponent is busy making a fool of himself, shut up and let 'em. (Just too bad every Canadian has to share the embarrassment……..)

    • Dakota, how can you not be embarassed like the people you call Lib-Lefties are? Our Prime Minister used the occasion of an international meeting to peddle dirt and smears. It was not only repeating a lie, but Harper went on and made conclusions about Ignatieff's character and commitment to Canada based on these lies? In other words, Harper threw himself into this dirty job. Don't you find that embarassing for Canada? What other leader behaved like this?

      • I am embarrassed! I am embarrassed for all the leaders of Canada's political parties. There isn't a single person worth voting for among the entire group and this is just another example of why I will be spoiling my ballet.

        The sad fact is, you will continue to vote Lib-Left regardless of who it is you are voting for.

      • I am embarrassed! I am embarrassed for all the leaders of Canada's political parties. There isn't a single person worth voting for among the entire group and this is just another example of why I will be spoiling my ballet.

        The sad fact is, you will continue to vote Lib-Left regardless of who it is you are voting for.

        (BTW – I am a small "c" fiscal conservative and had high hopes for Martin, alas, he was such a let down.)

      • I am embarrassed! I am embarrassed for all the leaders of Canada's political parties. There isn't a single person worth voting for among the entire group and this is just another example of why I will be spoiling my ballet.

        The sad fact is, you will continue to vote Lib-Left regardless of who it is you are voting for.

        (BTW – I am a “small c” fiscal conservative and had high hopes for Paul Martin, alas, he was such a let down. I also like playing devils advocate.)

        • I also like playing devils advocate

          It's a good game to play, but can I offer you a word of advice? Making snarky comments about people wearing tinfoil hats doesn't really constitute playing Devil's Advocate.

      • Do you think the National News programs will replay the whole statement so everyone gets the full picture you have presented? As you suggest, the conclusions based on the lie give the full scope of smear on Ignatieff's character and commitment.
        I think the media, except for Aaron and Kady, covers up for him all the time.

      • Will the National News programs give the full statement tonight? As Catherine says, it's not only the lie (or mistake?)about what Ignatieff said but the way he tried to use the gotcha moment. I think except for Aaron and kady, the national media cover up for him all the time.

  27. Promises, Promises. Harper and co. set such a high standard of incompetence it is inconceivable anyone could ever aspire to equal them.

    • Right…and he caused the global recession and engineered swine flu too. You Lib-Lefties are such a riot. These boards are like reading the comic section.

      Keep the tin foil hat party rockin!

      • Only when members of CRAP (aka CPC) contribute. You got the right party name the first time.

  28. "All the Lib-Lefties are giggly today! Lots of patty cake and back patting"

    Believe you me, none of this is funny. It's embarrassing.

  29. QED

    • Indeed, but you are assuming your conclusions are valid. I believe questioning the patriotism of a potential PM is valid.

      • You mean like someone who once advocated for the separation of Alberta from Canada? Or someone who called Canada a second-tier country, perhaps? Or someone who – as a sitting PM – deliberately lied to the Canadian people about the legal foundation of our parliamentary system? A man who makes himself more available to American media than Canadian journalists? Or maybe someone who weakened the Canadian federation by extending nation status to Quebec, perhaps swayed by his once dependence on a separatist party to prop up his minority rule?

        See how petty and stupid that sounds? Nobody wins when we go around claiming that others have less Canadian blood in them. There's a long list of historical horrors that have relied on that sort of thinking, and I can't think of an instance where a pissing match of patriotism has done a nation any good.

        • Now your talking…I do question Harper's patriotism on all the points you've made, but that does not lessen the questions of Ignatieff own patriotism.

          Maybe I'm just too much of a nationalist, but I would rather have someone as PM (from any party) who had Canada's interests above their own, something I don't see in either Harper or Ignatieff.

          Fact remains, shouldn't the PM be a patriot?

          • "I do question Harper's patriotism on all the points you've made"

            I think you missed the part where SeanStok pointed out that this was petty and stupid.

  30. What about the other side of this issue ? Here is what David Akin is reporting …

    For the record, Ignatieff, in London, England, earlier this week, said something about Canada's presidency of the G8 that was remarkably similar to what the prime minister said. Here's Ignatieff:"Huntsville should be a plce where we will make substantial progress redefining and refocusing the G8 itself."

    http://communities.canada.com/shareit/blogs/onthe

    Any reporters at Maclean's want to pursue all of what Iggy said in London ?

  31. This episode demonstrates PMSH's lack of statesmanship and a sense of propriety. I appreciate that he thought his audience was Canadians generally, but in fact he was speaking to other G8 leaders as well, washing his dirty linen in public. Unbelievable. I don't think the other leaders frankly care about his domestic issues, and I suspect they have more sense than to discuss theirs.

  32. It would be a first if Wherry apologized for any one of a number of inaccurate, misleading and hostile posts.