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Hey there, CBC, glad you could finally make it.


 

The CBC catches up with a story Maclean’s broke more than a year and a half ago.

CBC: Nov 11, 2010

Maclean’s: March 23, 2009.


 

Hey there, CBC, glad you could finally make it.

  1. I'm not sure an item on who MPs talk to is news, exactly.

    They're supposed to talk to everybody after all.

  2. I'm not sure an item on who MPs talk to is news, exactly.

    They're supposed to talk to everybody after all.

  3. This is the same group that Jason Kenney appeared with on Parliament Hill, no?

  4. This is the same group that Jason Kenney appeared with on Parliament Hill, no?

  5. If 5 Conservative MP`s received a free trip to Europe to meet with a terrorist group would there be more than 2 comments about it.

    C`mon ted and craig and thwim—-where are you ?

  6. If 5 Conservative MP`s received a free trip to Europe to meet with a terrorist group would there be more than 2 comments about it.

    C`mon ted and craig and thwim—-where are you ?

    • I'm almost certain that Dan is right, and that this is the exact same group that Jason Kenney appeared with right on Parliament Hill, so it's a little harder to get excited about a group of opposition MPs meeting with a terrorist group if a Cabinet Minister has attended a rally on the Hill for the exact same group.

      • Oh, I think there would be a chap named Wherry who would be giddy with excitement if these were 5 Conservative MP`s.

        • Why?

          Couldn't it be argued that one cabinet minister addressing a rally on Parliament Hill is basically equivalent to 5 MPs having a private meeting?

          • Or 1 Conservative MP lobbying to have the same terrorist group de-listed?

            But you misunderstand the rules of the game LKO: Conservative principles don't apply to Conservatives.

  7. I'm almost certain that Dan is right, and that this is the exact same group that Jason Kenney appeared with right on Parliament Hill, so it's a little harder to get excited about a group of opposition MPs meeting with a terrorist group if a Cabinet Minister has attended a rally on the Hill for the exact same group.

  8. Sorry, Michael, all they need to do to deflect any criticism is say the same stuff Kenney said when he showed up at a PMOI rally. In 2006. Four years ago. *Cough.*

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/230/20060824/kenney_ral

    Which one is news? I'm sensing a lack of outrage.

  9. Sorry, Michael, all they need to do to deflect any criticism is say the same stuff Kenney said when he showed up at a PMOI rally. In 2006. Four years ago. *Cough.*

    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/230/20060824/kenney_ral

    Which one is news? I'm sensing a lack of outrage.

  10. Oh, I think there would be a chap named Wherry who would be giddy with excitement if these were 5 Conservative MP`s.

  11. You don't have to worry, Blue, because we already know.

    When Jason Kenney spoke at a rally on Parliament Hill in support of MEK <a href="http:// (http://tinyurl.com/2dc6nmv;” target=”_blank”> <a href="http://(http://tinyurl.com/2dc6nmv;” target=”_blank”>(http://tinyurl.com/2dc6nmv; and with photo : http://tinyurl.com/2dv7yk3
    ), Wherry didn't mention anything. No one followed up on it. It wasn't even as big a "story" as this, even though he was a cabinet minister at the time.

    When Stockwell Day was lobbying in the House of Commons to have MEK delisted as a terrorist organization saying he knew them personally and had met with them lots of times <a href="http:// (http://tinyurl.com/23jjavp,” target=”_blank”> <a href="http://(http://tinyurl.com/23jjavp,” target=”_blank”>(http://tinyurl.com/23jjavp, that's just one, search Hansard for more), not a peep from the media. Nothing from them when he called them freedom fighters and sent them his "best wishes".

    In fact "The Media" hate the Conservatives soooo very much they put up articles like the two listed that apppear to try to make the Liberals look bad, without a mention of how much in bed the Conservatives are with this group.

  12. From my 2009 article:

    Although no Conservative MPs attended the NCRI's rally and meetings in Paris last summer, the group has drawn Conservative support in the past. Paul Forseth, a Conservative MP until his defeat in the 2006 election, has previously attended an NCRI rally in Paris and remains a strong supporter of the group. And in April 2006, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney, then the parliamentary secretary to the Prime Minister for multiculturalism, spoke at a small rally on Parliament Hill held by apparent supporters of the People's Mujahedeen. A photo of Kenney addressing the group appeared on the website of the National Council of Resistance of Iran. Kenney later claimed he had been invited to give a speech by a group calling itself the Committee for Human Rights in Iran and said he had no idea the group was linked to the People's Mujahedeen.

    Denis Coderre, the Liberal defence critic, didn't accept this explanation and called on Kenney to apologize and denounce the People's Mujahedeen: “A terrorist group is a terrorist group,” said Coderre. “Jason Kenney, who likes to play politics and who's as subtle as Barney Rubble in politics, he should do better than that.” Maclean's called Coderre's office to find out how he felt about his Liberal colleagues attending a People's Mujahedeen rally and taking money from supporters of the group, but he did not respond to a request for an interview.

  13. From my 2009 article:

    Although no Conservative MPs attended the NCRI's rally and meetings in Paris last summer, the group has drawn Conservative support in the past. Paul Forseth, a Conservative MP until his defeat in the 2006 election, has previously attended an NCRI rally in Paris and remains a strong supporter of the group. And in April 2006, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney, then the parliamentary secretary to the Prime Minister for multiculturalism, spoke at a small rally on Parliament Hill held by apparent supporters of the People's Mujahedeen. A photo of Kenney addressing the group appeared on the website of the National Council of Resistance of Iran. Kenney later claimed he had been invited to give a speech by a group calling itself the Committee for Human Rights in Iran and said he had no idea the group was linked to the People's Mujahedeen.

    Denis Coderre, the Liberal defence critic, didn't accept this explanation and called on Kenney to apologize and denounce the People's Mujahedeen: “A terrorist group is a terrorist group,” said Coderre. “Jason Kenney, who likes to play politics and who's as subtle as Barney Rubble in politics, he should do better than that.” Maclean's called Coderre's office to find out how he felt about his Liberal colleagues attending a People's Mujahedeen rally and taking money from supporters of the group, but he did not respond to a request for an interview.

    • I apologize sincerely for my laziness Michael. I was really reacting more to the hypocrits like blue, and skimmed through too quickly to see any references to Kenney. Good for you: half points (Might want to add the reference to Stockwell Day's efforts on behalf of MEK (which to me seems to go beyond what Kenney did which went beyond what the Liberals did) if you are updating the story at some point. )

      (That Kenney claims he didn't know exactly who he was working with is a joke. A cabinet minister doesn't just show up at a protest rally and speak without knowing who it is organizing it. A 2 second google search would have shown the connection.)

      • Thanks for the update ted.

        Let`s hope all MP`s have done their homework in regards to terrorist networks. It`s bad enough that you and I are lazy hypocrits but one would hope that our representatives would have more incentive to google than us.

        I don`t know why the CPC discovered four and one -half years ago that it was a bad idea to assosciate with this group while Liberal MP`s were accepting European travel-meeting invitations only a year and one-half ago.

        • Well I actually do have a good idea why: they are keen to get rid of the regime in Iran and the MEK, which is no longer seen and has been de-listed as a terrorist organization in most countries, is (warts and all) one of many groups fighting to overthrow the theocracy in their home country. They've been de-listed elsewhere because they appear to have foregone violence quite some time ago. As Stockwell Day assured us based on his closeness with the MEK leaders.

          Speaking with them is the least we can do.

          And I'm not sure where you think I've been hypocritical here. I'm not blaming one group for doing exactly the same thing another group has done, unlike many.

          Kenney and Day obviously went much further than these Liberals, but it is all on the "probably not a good idea" scale since they are still listed as a terrorist group (at least in Canada), but not a huge deal in any way for any of them, and probably on the right side of the bigger issue.

  14. I apologize sincerely for my laziness Michael. I was really reacting more to the hypocrits like blue, and skimmed through too quickly to see any references to Kenney. Good for you: half points (Might want to add the reference to Stockwell Day's efforts on behalf of MEK (which to me seems to go beyond what Kenney did which went beyond what the Liberals did) if you are updating the story at some point. )

    (That Kenney claims he didn't know exactly who he was working with is a joke. A cabinet minister doesn't just show up at a protest rally and speak without knowing who it is organizing it. A 2 second google search would have shown the connection.)

  15. Thanks for the update ted.

    Let`s hope all MP`s have done their homework in regards to terrorist networks. It`s bad enough that you and I are lazy hypocrits but one would hope that our representatives would have more incentive to google than us.

    I don`t know why the CPC discovered four and one -half years ago that it was a bad idea to assosciate with this group while Liberal MP`s were accepting European travel-meeting invitations only a year and one-half ago.

  16. Well I actually do have a good idea why: they are keen to get rid of the regime in Iran and the MEK, which is no longer seen and has been de-listed as a terrorist organization in most countries, is (warts and all) one of many groups fighting to overthrow the theocracy in their home country. They've been de-listed elsewhere because they appear to have foregone violence quite some time ago. As Stockwell Day assured us based on his closeness with the MEK leaders.

    Speaking with them is the least we can do.

    And I'm not sure where you think I've been hypocritical here. I'm not blaming one group for doing exactly the same thing another group has done, unlike many.

    Kenney and Day obviously went much further than these Liberals, but it is all on the "probably not a good idea" scale since they are still listed as a terrorist group (at least in Canada), but not a huge deal in any way for any of them, and probably on the right side of the bigger issue.

  17. Why?

    Couldn't it be argued that one cabinet minister addressing a rally on Parliament Hill is basically equivalent to 5 MPs having a private meeting?

  18. Or 1 Conservative MP lobbying to have the same terrorist group de-listed?

    But you misunderstand the rules of the game LKO: Conservative principles don't apply to Conservatives.

  19. Who reads Macleans anymore anyway? It's like CTV light.

  20. Who reads Macleans anymore anyway? It's like CTV light.

  21. Hard to find the high ground when it comes to Iran? Shocking.

    Petrou chooses when to write and rouse the rabble. So familiar. While he will never come close to his skill as a writer, at least Petrou can rest comfortably knowing he is much more handsome than Mark Steyn.

  22. Hard to find the high ground when it comes to Iran? Shocking.

    Petrou chooses when to write and rouse the rabble. So familiar. While he will never come close to his skill as a writer, at least Petrou can rest comfortably knowing he is much more handsome than Mark Steyn.

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