“I’m not Hitler, You’re not Hitler”

A dispatch from the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear in Washington, DC


 

My colleague, Patricia Treble, and I were not certain what to expect of the Rally for Sanity and/or Fear. We just hoped it would be funny.

The National Parks Service, which runs the National Mall in downtown Washington, DC, where the rally was held on Saturday, had provided Comedy Central a permit for 60,000 people.  But it was clear this was going to be a much bigger event the minute we approached our suburban Virginia subway station and saw a line was forming outside of dozens of people waiting to buy tickets. On the platform of the Metro crowds jostled to get on already-packed trains. Many people had so much trouble getting on the trains, that they had traveled away from Washington to the very start of the lines in Virginia and Maryland just to get a seat – and discovered those trains were packed too.

Despite the crush, the mood was light with riders going out of their way to be pleasant and considerate – as though they were trying to prove that they really were sane. Although the Daily Show and Colbert Report attract young viewers, there was a notable scattering of grey hair and wrinkles in the crowd. Arriving at our destination, we were greeted by volunteers offering directions and a cart offering Starbucks Frappuccinos and San Pellegrino bubbly water.


Best costumes at the Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear (PHOTOS)

On the Mall, the crowds seemed to be the biggest since Obama’s Inauguration in January 2009. [See a discussion of comparative crowd sizes here.]

The metro system reported that 329,000 people had used the system by 2 pm. (The rally began at 1pm.)

Even 90 minutes before the rally, it was hard to move around. Many people had given up trying to get onto the Mall, and were camped out on side streets. We spoke to one woman who had arrived at 7 a.m. only to discover other people had snatched up prime spots four hours earlier, at 3 a.m.

A few signs:

“Tea parties are for little girls and their imaginary friends.”

“Ruly mob”

“Civil is Sexy”

“Big signs are for bullies”

“Don’t tread on anybody”

The people who came said they weren’t just there for jokes and music. They really were tired of the shouting.

“I don’t like it when you yell at me like that,” said a sign carried by Shabi Rostani, 28, who came from New York City. Her twin sister, Behar, asked politicians to “tone it down a bit.” She said she is tired of the extremes since they are “turning people against each other.”  Shabi Rostani had never been to a political rally before.  “I vote but don’t go to events like this,” she said. “They’re making an event for people who don’t go to events.”

“I might disagree with you, but I’m pretty sure neither of us is going to hell,” said Charlotte Martin’s sign. “I have to listen to them,” she said of her Republican neighbours in San Antonio, Texas. “They have to listen to me.”

“I think sanity is a good goal for American politics,” observed Tom Dowd, 48, who came from the eastern shore of Maryland and had spent 3 and a half hours battling the Metro system.

**

On stage it was one part satire—and one part painful earnestness. Stewart began by satirizing the trappings of modern political rallies on the Mall. There was a satirical benediction by Father Guido Sarducci, in which he went through a list of religious denominations and pleaded with God to send a sign to show which one is the “right one.”

There was also a ritual poem, read by Sam Waterston, and written by Colbert with the intent to instill “fear” in his audience, with lines such as: “You’re probably going deaf / kids back home cooking up crystal meth,” and “There was a man from Au Clair / who wouldn’t joint the panic about Hispanics / and later was killed by a bear.” But Stewart also attempted to appropriate some of the trappings. There was a decidedly non-ironic rendition of the Star Spangled Banner by a group of former servicemen called the 4Troops, and a sincere plea not to litter.

Much of the act was Stewart pleading for calm while, Colbert, after being coaxed out of his underground “cave of fear”, and rescued in a Chilean-style mining capsule, proceeded to incite terror. “You are reasonable for now. You will be a panicked mob once I release the bees.” When that was not enough to cause fear of stings or allergic reactions, he added that his killer bees were coated with peanut butter.

What came next was perhaps the most potent moment of the rally. Stewart and Colbert came out in matching stars-and-stripes sweaters – the literally wrapped-in-the-flag style that is emblematic of Republican activists and especially Tea Party sympathizers.

Colbert blasted Stewart: “I’m wearing it,” he said. “But you’re desecrating it.” Stewart shot back: “Everyone has the right to be patriotic.”

Colbert’s portrayal of right-wing commentators was so true to life that their reaction, when it came, could have been written by the comedian himself. For example, conservative activist and blogger, Andrew Breitbart, said: “It’s very motivating for conservatives to have that stereotyped group of Manhattan elitists, know-it-alls, snarky, smarmy liberals to be looking down on average Americans.”

Stewart occasionally tried to tweak liberals – especially in the media. In a musical number, he poked fun at the firings of Juan Williams by National Public Radio and of Rick Sanchez by CNN, after each made controversial comments about Muslims and Jews respectively. Later, on a serious note, Stewart said, “Not being able to distinguish between real racists and tea partiers, or real bigots and Juan Williams or Rick Sanchez, is an insult not only to those people, but to the racists themselves who have put in the exhausting effort it takes to hate. Just as the inability to distinguish terrorists from Muslims makes us less safe, not more.”

And so it was that the rally was one part satire, one part concert (acts included Kid Rock, Sheryl Crowe, T.I., Cat Stevens, Ozzy Osborne, and the Roots), and a dose of Boy Scout law. To the extent that Stewart is an influential tastemaker for at least part of the population, he was using his wit and irony to call for a decidedly un-ironic earnestness that boiled down to a version of “Why can’t we all just get along?”

But it also seemed to us that rather than mock the patriotism of the conservative activists and the Tea Party movement, Stewart was urging young liberals to not cede patriotism to the political right — effectively granting them permission to claim it and wear it un-ironically. He and Colbert sung a song about “The greatest, strongest country in the world,” which can be interpreted as mockery. But it appeared to be intended as an affirmation of the American-ness of the left – and a yearning for the right to acknowledge it.

“America’s perfect and there’s nothing to fix / My PIN code is 1776,” sang Colbert.

“You can tax all my cash to help out a stranger / but I’ll sue city hall if they put up a manger,” chimed in an off-key Stewart.

And they both chorused: “There is no one more American than we.”

The rally succeeded in transcending mere sarcasm. On the one hand, it gave voice to Democrats who are tired of Republicans talking in a nasty, loud voice about their president – the way Democrats not so long ago mocked and vilified George W. Bush. But it also expressed an anxiety that there is less and less of center in American politics – that extremes on both sides are taking control and moderates and bipartisanship are punished.

In the sea of placards on the Mall, one stood out.

“It’s a sad day when our politicians are comical — and I have to take our comedians seriously.”

UPDATE: We now have a photo  gallery of the wittiest rally signs here.


 
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“I’m not Hitler, You’re not Hitler”

      • I'll bet it was hilarious to see him try to get down as well. Symbolically though was that USA climbing the tree and China up top lending the occasional, sort of helping hand.

  1. Wow. Great reporting. And subtle irony at points. Enjoyable read.

  2. out of curiosity, did anyone from maclean's go to cover either the beck "rally to restore honour" or the original 9/12 tea party "taxpayer's march on washington" rally?

    • Luiza Ch. Savage lives in DC. She a correspondent and blogger for Macleans.

      • yes, and i'm curious to know whether she (or another maclean's correspondent) covered either of the two major tea-party rallies in dc from the past year.

        • This site has a search function.

          • yes, and i only see need-to-know headlines regarding those rallies. which is why i'm asking savage if she or another correspondent covered either of them. 'cause it would be weird if she only covered this one and not the ones that inspired it.

          • Refine your search terms.

            And no it wouldn't be weird.

          • Shorter guest: "Can anybody here provide absolute proof that I shouldn't feel victimized by (what I assume to be) Liberal bias in Macleans' US coverage?"

            If you're going to make allegations, you're supposed to provide some evidence yourself, not challenge people to disprove your assumptions.

          • Oh God, guest has hit on the giant leftwing media conspiracy. Drat.

          • I cant believe they found out about the conspiracy!

    • Hey Guest – reason.com covered both rallies – you might have to dig back for the Rally to Restore Honour

  3. What "extremes" is the interviewee tired of? Canadian politics ranges from moderate to far right, Americans from right to far right.

    • "far right" is "fascist". neither canadian nor american politics has that.

      so taking "fascist" and "communist", the two extremes neither country has, out of the mix then both countries span the remaining political extremes from left to right.

      • Fascist is beyond "extreme right", although you are right about neither Canada nor America having fascism as an extant part of discourse.

        And I suppose you can find a few bloggers for every stripe somewhere, but for political decision makers and too a lesser extent large media, my comments stand.

        • uh huh. no political decision makers in america are on the left. including nancy pelosi. that's an interesting definition of right and left you have there.

        • Read Robert Paxton's (He's an authority on the rise of the Vichy fascist state) "Anatomy of Fascism" (2004) and you may not be so convinced that tendencies towards fascism do not exist within the New American Right. Not 'conservatism' per se, but definitely within the mutually beneficial relationship between the tea party movement and its wealthy benefactors.

          • Tendencies, perhaps. But hardly a full blown phenomenon. In the same way that many possess some similarities with traits which are considered sociopathic, but you need to have all of them to a huge degree to actually be a sociopath. In the moderating spirit of what Stewart and Colbert seem to be approaching, tossing around these terms lightly is perhaps best avoided.

          • Vichy France is a pretty lousy analogy to make, considering that it only became a fascist state after France lost to the Nazis in 1940. And anyhow the tea party is ideologically a classical liberal anti-government movement. They exhibit less hyper-nationalism and puritanism than the GOP of just a few years ago. I can hardly think of a group of people less inclined to be fascists.

          • There was no comparison to Vichy. That's merely what Paxton is best known for. Neither was the intent of the comment to call the tea party people 'fascists'. Rather, the intent of the comment was to point to a book called 'Anatomy of Fascism' by someone who 's reasonably authoritative on the subject . In said book Paxton outlines the pre-conditions for the rise of fascism as such…

            "……a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."

            It's the "uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites" part which seems salient to a discussion of the Tea Party. Though there does seems to be elements of victimhood, nationalism ("Take our country back") and militant resentment (just listen to Ms. Angle) at play as well.

            That said, describing these people as fascists is at most nonsense and, at best, counter-productive. However, pointing out certain tendencies within a political movement seems reasonable.

          • Right winger Jonah Goldberg wrote a book called Liberal Fascism. Any of you tea party enthusiasts think that was over the top?

  4. The fact that Breitbart's retort was so painfully lame and predictable shows that the Rally was at least somewhat successful.

  5. How come none of the media are reporting on the 'overwhelmingly white' crowd? They kept repeating that like a mantra during the Beck rally – but this restoring stupidity rally is even 'whiter'?

    Liberal 'Bunker' mentality is what's on display here – they desperately want to believe everything's fine, the government will take care of them and the whole world must love them because they're liberals. Of course they're wrong on all counts.

    Most of them are so 'open-minded' their brains have fallen out. Which makes them very narrow-minded in reality.

    • Because there were people of all colours there….as you'd know if you clicked on my link.

      Liberals believe nothing of the sort btw….that's a Con projection.

      • Actually,

        a very good argument can be made that the liberals constant race baiting, and unfounded cries of racism, is precisely a large case of projection.

        • LOL no chet it can't.

        • and that is an assertion, not an argument chet.

        • "a very good argument can be made that the liberals constant race baiting, and unfounded cries of racism, is precisely a large case of projection."

          Then, go ahead and make it…the world is waiting.

        • Oh? I'd personally love to hear this argument. Please do elaborate old boy!

          • I see what you did there.

    • Misanthropy on display.

    • The idiot liberals aren't smart enough to fear their shadow.

      • Um….but cons do? LOL

    • Philanthropist – keeping fear alive!

      • Don't be afraid of reality, just face it like an adult.

        • LOL says the christian libertarian

        • Got your 'No Fedex Deliveries' sign up on your lawn yet?

    • hahahaha perfect and true
      its hilarious how you can so easily brainwash yourself into lala land

    • I saw this happen. Hilarious.

  6. Great article! Is it fitting in some way that the best I've read so far on the rally is from a Canadian media source?

  7. Your proof is so convincing! There are about 20 people in the foreground (one man right in front doesn't look ALL that white…) and the rest you can only see hair.

    You must of failed at science in high school – you remember those reports where you needed to form a rational analysis and conclusion based on your observations?

  8. Take a pill chet; preferably one for humor deficiency, and call me something in the morning,

  9. come on chet. every sane person knows that bogus racism accusations are only worth throwing at the right.

    also everyone knows that it's only ok to call bush hitler – call anyone else hitler (or fascist) and you're being rude.

    also everyone knows that it makes perfect sense to have a rally about civility in public discourse in contrast to all those insane people on the other side of the political divide.

    • I think it speaks for itself that you self-identify with teabaggers.

      • You're using sexual slurs now Emily Bunker? That's low.

        • Ignorant teabaggers at that. LOL

        • Not all that low. A little lower than waist-high.

  10. Yeah, you tell it, go rebel! You and that radical anti-establishment figure Glenn Beck.

  11. So the teabagger rallies were noted for their whiteness– boo freakin' hoo. It doesn't change the fact that teabaggers are faux outraged at spending only when Democrats are in power, but if it's Republican's flushing cash away then they see-no-evil, hear-no-evil.

    • The same way liberals are only outraged at signs comparing the POTUS to Hitler when it's their guy in the WH.

  12. @chet,

    Blacks constitute 13 percent of U.S. population — in a crowd of 200,000 plus, what do you expect to see? All African-Americans banding together in a crowd? Is that it?

  13. Reader,

    Exactly.

    Except that type of logic was not applied to the "racist" tea parties.

    That is my whole point.

    • Well they weren't likely to show up at teabag rallies where people dressed in confederate uniforms and held up signs with racial slurs.

      • Neither of your assertions are true and you know it, you're lying, again.

          • Golly! You found something on the internet that 'proves' your racist biases. What a surprise………….

    • Given that the primary point of the Tea Party Rally was political vs Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear is primarily satire.
      One is hoping to be a movement the other a douse of irony hoping to reset the prospects of respecting others opinions.
      If the masses show more trust in those who's job is mock the system than the ones who are supposed to run it, what would you conclude?
      Side point, this was media reporting on a media driven event; you're searching for Canadian coverage of American politics. Apples and oranges.

  14. "Kind of puts the exclamation mark on that smug condescention don't it?"

    Yore poor grasp of grammer and inability tu spel is a delishus iruny.

  15. chet, maybe you're just so tolerant you don't see race anymore. That's got to be it.

    • Hey! Doesn't that make him Stephen Colbert?

  16. I have heard of this Colbert fellow… but who is that other guy?

    • Whoever he is, he chose a perfectly awful last name that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

    • I was very proud to find it was a MacLeans commenter, until I realized that guy was NOT Stephen Colbert.

  17. Feel free to examine more than one photograph. I realize you're not exactly in the market to have your mind changed, but…

  18. I am always so busy, it seems. lot of folks have alot of time on their hands.

  19. This article, as interesting as the perspective was, missed the single biggest theme of the event – that the media has to take some responsibility for allowing political discourse to descend into a screaming match:

    "The country's 24 hour political pundit perpetual panic conflictinator did not cause our problems but its existence makes solving them that much harder. The press can hold its magnifying glass up to our problems bringing them into focus, illuminating issues heretofore unseen or they can use that magnifying glass to light ants on fire and then perhaps host a week of shows on the sudden, unexpected dangerous flaming ant epidemic. If we amplify everything we hear nothing."

    This point seems to be lost again and again in the reporting of the event. I can't imagine that's intentional, but does the media have a blind spot when it comes to media criticism?

  20. In true leftist form MacLeans is the Canadian version of MoveOn.org or another or those rabid leftist zealot propaganda machines. Glenn Beck, without the benefit of corrupt public sector unions, Presidents and Hollywood loons had a bigger crowd yet where was MacLeans. Hypocrites and a great example of why honest thinking people in Canada are hungry for a Fox News North.

    • I am pretty sure I saw coverage of the 'Honour Rally' on Macleans as well

  21. These hypocrites pretend to be very reasonable and conciliatory yet their goal is to dismiss the concerns of 1/2 the US population as racist and stupid. This faked conciliatory attitude will only last until the Democrats are out of power – after that, we will be right back to equating republicans with nazis.

    Its funny how these so-called 'rally to restore sanity' only occurs when a democrat is in power and is being challenged by an actual grassroots movement of real citizens (as opposed to the professional protesters which attend the many anti-bush rallies). The anger against president Bush makes the 'anger' against Obama look like a mild disagreement, yet only now are calls for calm and rational discourse made. What a load of hypocritical BS. They can shove their rational discourse where the sun dont shine – its not rational discourse they want, they only want to shield their beloved Obama from any criticism.

    • There were plenty of protests and rallies in Bush's day.

      The only difference is this time there was something to parody. This rally was mocking Glen Beck's rally, which didn't happen during Bush's term either.

      As for rational discourse, it doesn't begin with shoving it where the sun don't shine. See, it's all totally lost on you!

      • There were plenty of protests and rallies in Bush's day.

        Exactly my point.

        The only difference is this time there was something to parody. This rally was mocking Glen Beck's rally, which didn't happen during Bush's term either.

        Those anti-bush rallies could have certainly been parodied. They were full of nutcases, commies posing as anti-war activists, conspiracy theorists, … Check it out: http://www.zombietime.com/hall_of_shame/ For some reason, these sensitive souls attending Jon Stewart's rally are more concerned when people protest in favour of lower taxes and less government then they are when the President is routinely equated with Hitler, as Bush was. Therein lies the hypocrisy.

        As for rational discourse, it doesn't begin with shoving it where the sun don't shine. See, it's all totally lost on you!

        Indeed it is. I will respond to rational discourse with rational discourse. This rally however was not rational discourse, it was a pretense of rational discourse underneath a mountain of condescension and hypocrisy.

      • I should add that the link above is NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!

    • Your response to their dismissal of "1/2 the US population as racist and stupid" is to call them hypocrites and tell them to shove their rational discourse where the sun dont [sic] shine? And you don't find that a bit ironic?

      You may have just proved the entire point of the rally. That, and at least half the population is without a sense of humour. Seriously, lighten up.

  22. My sign if I was there:

    Read my ellipses. No new …

  23. It was fun to watch, love Colbert, these guys are great, for a year and a half I flew to DC every to weeks for five days and there was never nothing interesting and NOW THIS HAPPENS, not fair!

    • You know Colbert is a satirist, right? :)

      • And he is a darn fine one : )

  24. Precisely, thanks for being honest. If you consider that your opponents are racist twits, then it's highly hypocritical and insulting to call for rational discourse.

    This rally just attempts to be conciliatory because the Democrats will get trounced tomorrow. If the Democrats were not about to lose both houses of congress, they would just come out and call the republicans racist twits have they have done for the past 10 years.

    Clearly, the democrats can dish it out, but they become sensitive little pansies as soon as they end up on the receiving end.

    • Allnerd, I'm beginning to think you're a Daily show plant. Keep it up – it's funny stuff.

  25. my handle is alFAnerd, not allnerd. i have absolutely zero problems with the humorous side of this rally. even if 100% of political humour was one-sided, i wouldnt care.

    my only issue is with the serious part of this rally and the pretense that this was apolitical and that the organizers of this rally are just trying to inject some neutral common sense in a political debate. BS!!!! And I definitely dont want a law or a constitutional amendment (see how lefties think, they think a law is necessarily the answer to everything). No, Im just calling out the hypocrites and liars. That is all.

    • Dreadfully sorry ALPHAnerd. I was never good with foreign languages. Maybe you should shorten it to 'nerd. I don't want or need a law – you are the one complaining. I'm a believer in free speech and I believe they have that covered in the constitution. I suggest you tune in to Stewart's show because if you think he's a leftwing propagandist you have him all wrong.

      • You're the one suggesting that I may want a law. I dont. Im also a firm believer in free speech.

        I use to watch Stewart's show many years ago. I thought it was very funny, in particular the correspondents, like Cordry and that guy that plays in The Office, and Samantha Bee, all very good stuff.

        So I know that Stewart basically made his name making fun of Bush and essentially lived off the anti-Bush hysteria of the times. I have no problems with that.

        Im just pointing out that Stewart is now veering into hypocrisy by pretending to be in favour of respectful dialogue while making fun of the tea party movement and by protecting Obama from criticism.

        And I agree that Stewart is not a leftwing propagandist, but he's still a Democrat and an Obama supporter.

        • You obviously haven't been watching since Obama came in.

          • No I havent. Good on him if he makes fun of Obama. Im still wondering why he feels compelled to hold a "restore sanity" rally now instead of a couple years ago if he's so apolitical.

          • Maybe because the politicos (more those on the right, but the left as well) have ramped up their partisan attacks and are becoming increasingly divisive since Obama took office? Things are becoming increasingly polarized (as often happens during economic hard times) – to such a degree that it actually makes it nearly impossible to get anything done because the politicians are far more interested in scoring points than actually DOING anything [probably because they don't have the first clue what to do and so want to be on record as opposing what the other guy does, in case it goes wrong.]

            These days it's all about CYA and the politics of blame – whereas most sane people want them to instead work together to actually find a solution and don't particularly care which side hits on the solution, as long as they find one. The message I took away from this is that Stewart and Colbert want them to give up the finger-pointing and "git 'er done"..

          • Yeah that's hilarious. Dont you remember the period between 2001-2008. Were politics not polarized, with lefties hysterically making partisan and divisive attacks against Bush? It's amazing how quick people forget.

            My point is, if Stewart was really interested in 'restoring sanity', he would have done so a while ago. This rally was not about restoring sanity, it was about putting up a facade of moderation and conciliation in the face of an electoral trouncing (coming today!!!) in order to protect Obama.

  26. Again, you unwittingly prove the point of the rally. But I'm pretty sure you're not Hitler…

    • So what was the point of the rally then? And how could you be so sure Im not Hitler – you mean you believe that story that I, …heh, sorry that Hitler died in his bunker?

      • Rabble rabble rabble

        Left is garbage, right is right

        Rabble rabble rabble

        • Correct.

  27. That's a fair point. It is still shocking to me how many left-leaning people in Canada, when you discuss the topic with them, believe that Bush and/or his cronies perpetrated the 9/11 attacks. And when you come back at them with rational refutations, their denial is akin to the behaviour of the mentally ill or the drug-addicted when confronted during an intervention.

    • Really – I've only run across a few – about the same number who think Obama was born in Kenya and is Muslin.

      • I agree that's equally nuts. A pox on all conspiratorial nutbars.

        Re the 9/11 loonies, the two leading left-wing publications in the BC Lower Mainland, The Georgia Straight and (especially) Common Ground magazine, have regularly over the years given prominent play to 9/11 "truthers" and the like. Invariably without publishing anything in the way of an obvious retort or equal time.

        One of the things that kills me about the 9/11 conspiracy theorists is that they never want to answer the rather simple question, to wit: how many people were in on the conspiracy? And the reason that that question makes them uncomfortable is that it shows up the very preposterousness of the theory. Because when you factor in the number of persons who would have had to have been involved — and who — mirabile dictu! — have ALL remained silent ever since — it's an absolutely massive number of people.

        • BTW, I liked the sign at the rally: "The Death Star was an Outside Job — and so was 9/11."

      • True; if you want to talk conspiracy theorists, there are far more – in positions of power – who still think the terrorists came from Canada. For them, South Park is reality TV. But what do I know? I thought Bush was wrong about the WMDs, and was just looking for an excuse to be War President… guess they proved ME wrong!

  28. Didn’t attend either Beck’s or Stewart’s rallies. I will though attend the Nov. 2nd national US rally at the voting booth. Hear tell about 90 million are expected to attend that one. I’m only going to stay maybe 10-15 minutes at most. That’s as long as it takes.

    Beck, Stewart, and their rallying ‘followers’ are like dogs trying to mark territory with their urine, with the higher quantity of urine expended winning. Or stinkier. When one dog first lays down a stink stream, the second dog can’t let that go unchallenged.

    Boggles me why anyone needs prompting or motivation to vote. Maybe the rally attenders want to feel they have more than one vote’s worth of effect on the outcome of an election.

  29. Extremely well put.

    • And that was @chet

  30. Yeah good point, but the Democrats didn't have a 24 hour news network repeating those claims over and over and over and over and…….

  31. There are a couple of important nuances:

    The first is that all those talking points were not the focal points/lead editorial positions of leading cable news networks.

    The second is that all those talking points were not the mainstays of Democratic Party's message.

    The Republicans are worse than the Democrats on insane hyperbole. On the left it's fringe. On the right it's mainstream. That's the difference, and that's why Jon Stewart should be more aggressive about calling it out on the right.

  32. Wow, wow, wow
    Enjoyable read…amazing what goes around in the world!