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Our short national panic is over


 

Michael Ignatieff appears in public. Says things.

“The thing that struck me is why isn’t someone in this government getting up and saying ‘don’t trash the Canadian health care system in the United States.’ Who’s standing up for Canada here?”

“Don’t drag Canada’s good  name into the mud in the United States. We’ve got enough problems with the United States right now with the buy-American stuff, with the thickening of the border.   But every Canadian is proud of this thing and we don’t like seeing it dragged into the mind and I can’t understand why the Harper government is completely silent on the issue. I won’t be silent.”


 

Our short national panic is over

  1. It is always so difficult to know wtf Iggy is talking about. Is he saying if we start lecturing the Americans about how great we, and our health care system, are our other problems will be solved. Or is he saying we have lots of issues with Americans already, so lets add another and start lecturing them about our superiority.

  2. It is always so difficult to know wtf Iggy is talking about. Is he saying if we start lecturing the Americans about how great we, and our health care system, are our other problems will be solved. Or is he saying we have lots of issues with Americans already, so lets add another and start lecturing them about our superiority.

    And who wants to bet that 'I won't be silent' will translate into not hearing another peep about this issue again from Iggy.

    • So you think that politicians… I mean non-conservative politicians who defend Canada's reputation and point out that our system is not even remotely as bad as the republicans claim it to be, is now equivalent to "lecturing them about our superiority".

      If this is what you understand from these two (simple) paragraphs, I think you need better reading and comprehension skills… and this is a polite understatement.

  3. Perhaps he is crafting an essay on Canada's health care system, to be published in the NYT. Another option would be to follow Layton's lead by appearing on American TV to tout the virtues of the Canadian system.

  4. Ujjal Dosanjh has done a good job and is quite articulate, and Ignatieff should be praising him and encouraging that, and, if he must, contrast that with the Government. But stating "Who's standing up for Canada here?" and "I won't be silent"… c'mon. These threats, like the "You mess with me" threat, ring hollow.

    And, of course, almost every time I hear "I won't be silent" from a politician I immediately wish they would be.

    • almost every time I hear "I won't be silent" from a politician I immediately wish they would be.

      Classic

    • almost every time I hear "I won't be silent" from a politician I immediately wish they would be.

    • I cant resist pointing out that "Who's standing up for Canada here?" and "I won't be silent" – dont qualify as threats under any definition I can find.

  5. Oooh, oooh, I get to play Juxtaposing statements.

    Michael Ignatieff, 2009: "Don't drag Canada's good name into the mud."

    Michael Ignatieff, 2005: “It's disgusting in my own country, and I love my country, Canada, but they would rather bitch about their rich neighbour to the south than actually pay the note,” he said, in response to a question about peacekeeping. “To pay the bill to be an international citizen is not something that they want to do.”

    • So, basically, he said we like to brag about our peacekeeping reputation but we haven't been willing to make the military investments necessary to support those activities? Clearly that's completely off base, and far worse than, say, :

      Stephen Harper, 1997: "First, facts about Canada. Canada is a Northern European welfare state in the worst sense of the term, and very proud of it. Canadians make no connection between the fact that they are a Northern European welfare state and the fact that we have very low economic growth, a standard of living substantially lower than yours, a massive brain drain of young professionals to your country, and double the unemployment rate of the United States."

    • First off, the quote as reported by Susan Delacourt is "we don't like seeing it dragged into the mind"
      I know, I am not sure what it means either but it is much more interesting.

      Second, A lot of what is being said about the Canadian healthcare system is nonsense (both for and against). It has been proven dangerous to let Senators and Congressman speak nonsense about Canada, because after awhile myths become accepted facts. (9-11 bombers, mad cow etc) So it makes sense to engage in the dialogue and attempt to keep the record straight (at least straighter)

      Finally John it is disingenuous to take something Ignatieff said which you probably agree with (we have for years avoided paying a fair share of our own defense costs, I certainly agree with what he said in 05. ) put it next to an statement on a completely unrelated topic and shout gotcha.
      You are beginning to develop an Aaronesc approach to your posts. Perhaps a weekend in NY would help.

      • You are beginning to develop an Aaronesc approach to your posts.

        That was kind of the point Stewart, it was intended to be a satire of the kind of post that Aaron makes against Conservatives time and time again, but never against the Liberals. I considered posting it as "MIrror Universe Aaron Wherry".

        • That was very good… you even brought in the MJ thing from the earlier post!

          • That was unintentional, I was referring to the Star Trek mirror universe, but had to back down when I couldn't picture Aaron with a goatee.

          • Brilliant, I think you have figured out what happened to Radwanski!

  6. "I won't be silent."
    Media watch now on….Can't wait to hear what Ignatieff has to say in defense of Canada's health care.

    • Hopefully he gives Harper first dibs, he is after all the current sitting PM.

  7. It must be hard to pull yourself away from the south of France these days.

    • Of course it would be, sounds like a nice place huh. But who was there?? Why is this related to Ignatieffs comments?

    • Having been there, I'd have to say it would be hard to pull yourself away from the south of France any day.

    • Who is in South France you Tory troll? Go back to the "war room".

  8. I guess the Liberals can now save money on their next ad campaign and just reuse bits from the Tories' "Stand up for Canada" campaign from 2006.

  9. lecturing Americans about health care is so unrewarding. It's much more satisfying to watch their poor die and their middle class slide into ruin.

    • Mr. T – I pity the fool who receives satisfaction from that sort of thing, even if its not really true and you just get satisfaction from posting statements like that.

    • Is it truly satisfying to watch their poor die? Care to rephrase that so it makes some sense?

  10. So now we've heard from Michael Ignatieff, and life can go on. Maybe now we can turn our attention to finding Stephen Harper (the current prime minister), who hasn't been seen in public since the G8 meetings in Italy.

    Did he maybe get stuck in the loo and miss his flight home? Is he vacationing in the south of France? Is he teamed-up with Tom Hanks to find the conspirators trying to drive a wedge between Catholics and Protestants?

    Inquiring minds want to know!

  11. Aaron – you are teasing us again – right?
    "Says things"?
    The only things that gentleman should be saying right now are – "here – ladies and gentlemen – are the key planks in the Liberal Party platform – here's where I believe this Nation needs to be heading – and here's why I think I can convince you – and hopefully – if I may use the word – inspire you – as did Barack Obama the American citizens last year – to turn the page and point this ship of Canada in the right direction…" something like that would be nice…

    • I don't think that any Canadian leader has much to gain by trying to publicly compare himself to Obama. That path only leads to mockery.

      • Taking the path to Mockery is one of the 3 options available to the modern Canadian politician. A complete list:

        Mockery (Dion, Clarke, Campbell, Dryden, Layton)
        Despised (Harper, Trudeau, Mulroney)
        Forgotten (Copps, Turner, Stanfield, McDonough)

        In an earlier time, Sainthood was an option for a precious few (Douglas, Pearson) but apparently all those slots are now taken.

        • You fogot Chretien in the despised section remember when he was Trudeaus attack dog hand e had more enemies than Van Loan

  12. Not only that, how smart is it for the full party platform to be released when there's no election on the table? Stephane Dion and his green shift showed how dangerous that can be.

  13. This is quite simply too and I repeat way too funny – Imagine a oppostion leader giving new meaning to the term phoning it in – the sheer hypocrisy is absolutley irresistible way to go Iggy you get the best bobby prize by far and away for this one LMAO – too funny – poor guy oh well you lnow what they say you snooze you lose!

  14. Everyone can follow Ignatieff on Twitter, if you're all so concerned with his whereabouts.

    • Sure, but he's only twitted twice since his Stampede breakfast.

      • you should see the PM's if you want to see a busy one!

        • A busy twit? sorry, i've read all about the so-called PM who can't find his way out of a bathroom without a psychic dresser…

  15. Harper was interviewed on Fox News a few weeks ago, and was asked to comment on their Health Care debate. He started by saying something about not wanting to take sides. Then pointing out that there is wide multi-partisan support for our system of health care.
    That's pretty well all he said.

    Harper understands that his role as PM is, among other things, to advocate and explain government policies. He is not an analyst. Iggy should pay attention, and start presenting himself as a PM in waiting. As it is, Iggy is doing a good job of following Wells's 4th rule:
    "The guy who auditions for the role of opposition leader will get the job"

    • not only that but should Harper start to get involved in this yankee fray it would be 10 times worse than when Obama was running for the nomination –

  16. Well that was nothing if not predictable.

    According to an interesting article by Lawrence Martin in today's Globe, the Libs plan to play politcs, policy be damned:

    "“The plan,” a senior Ignatieff strategist said yesterday, “is steady as she goes.”

    If there is worry among the rank and file about lack of policy, there isn't at party central. “The game is not policy, it's politics,” the adviser bluntly observed. "

    And this: "Attacks are coming soon."

    Looks like Martin has a good source, dismal as the message emanating from him or her is if you're a LIberal.

    • well I mean really of course – you have to play to your strengths and since Harper effectively neutered the Lib's and pulled the rug out from underneath Iggy by becoming best pals with Obama and no doubt there is going to be a raft of legislation with the Obama seal of approval on it and no doubt coming through the Hopuse this fall what does that leave the lib's with?

  17. "Here's what Ignatieff told reporters today at the Kruger paper mill in Gatineau, Que."

    Anybody else notice this line?

    Ignatieff has hit the BBQ circuit… making the 15 minute drive to Gatineau, Quebec! Way to hit the asphalt and burn some showleather, Igster!

    • The French language articles state that Ignatieff is in the Gaspésie region, far from Ottawa.

      Just another example of lazy reporting, this time on the part of Susan Delacourt.

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