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Parliament Hill is lovely this time of year


 

Helena Guergis and some of her colleagues go for a casual late summer stroll around the Hill.


 

Parliament Hill is lovely this time of year

  1. Thank God Lisa Raitt was there to speak for the lesser Conservative women.

  2. Wow. It's like TMZ on Parliament Hill!

    • That's the most accurate comment given how so much of the current media coverage tends to the whole gossipgirl style of things.

      Unfortunately too many of our Parliamentarians can still say, "I'm a lawyer."

      • HAAHA yes to all of the above.
        ''I'm a lawyer.'' – They ought to be proud. There is nothing wrong with the legal profession.
        More TMZ!

  3. Seeing as your libel-adverse editors have shut down the comments on the other posts about this subject, I promise to behave myself here.

    Cons:
    take your sanctimonious attitudes and your pandering "anti-crime" legislation and gag yourselves while enjoying hypocritical purgatory.

  4. Seeing as your libel-adverse editors have shut down the comments on the other posts about this subject, I promise to behave myself here.

    Cons:
    take your sanctimonious attitudes and your pandering "anti-crime" legislation and gag yourselves while enjoying hypocritical purgatory.

    • That's a great line; mind if I echo it?

      "Cons: take your sanctimonious attitudes and your pandering "anti-crime" legislation and gag yourselves while enjoying hypocritical purgatory."

      A comforting mantra, almost lullabyish in its tone.

  5. Cons: take your sanctimonious attitudes and your pandering "anti-crime" legislation and gag yourselves while enjoying hypocritical purgatory

    Add a little blow and the Cons would find all of that quite the rush.

  6. I thought it was kind of funny how Stockwell Day had to keep running to keep up with the group, while the reporters could manage the same thing while walking backwards and carrying their equipment.

    • That was weird. Stock has always sold himself as Mr. Fit so why was he in his full running gear and jogging along while everybody else (mostly women) walked in pumps?

      • I was surprised he didn't go out there in a wetsuit to distract everybody.

    • He doesn't have a wide stance. And therefore, his stride is shorter.

      So leave "Doris" aloooooone!

  7. It's nice to be able to post about this Jaffer arrest — the whole thing is very 'handmaid's tale,' with the uber-conservative government that prohibits stuff, but keeps an illegal brothel where its own representatives can enjoy booze, drugs and women.

    As for the linked video — maybe Guergis should skip the Relay for Life and other public events for awhile. Or stop and answer the questions. Either way, a vulgar display by media and by the ministers.

    • Where is this illegal brothel that you speak of?

  8. I see that Aaron's post has attracted la creme-de-la-creme of the Liberal partisan commentators: Anon/Ti-G*y, MJ Patchouli. NorthernPoV, craigola.

    You guys do have the sanctimony market cornerd already, I'm afraid, 'else you wouln't be buzzing around here like vultures.

    • How long have you been circling around waiting to get sanctimonious on the sanctimonious of the sanctimonious?

      Here I go, getting all sanctimonious myself…

    • jarrrid,
      you need to make appropriate accusations if you are gonna make any headway in debate…

      Sanctimony: "Feigned piety or righteousness; hypocritical devoutness or high-mindedness."

      Nothing feigned about our response but IF your guy is found guilty* then it fits the above definition to a tee.

      • In my experience, left-wingers are the most moralistic people I encounter, without fail. Why is this? I'm not entirely sure, but often enough, it's because their politcs have replaced their religion, and hence the sanctimony.

        • We're not any more moralistic. We're just not hypocrites.

        • Please read Adam Radwaski's column in the Globe and re watch the video . There will be Conservatives in Canada again after harper .

    • I have to confess, jarrid, that it warms my heart to know that you're keeping an eye open for me. Now, I don't want to spoil things by being too critical of you at this delicate point in our relationship, but I think you should examine your feelings regarding (alleged) impaired driving and the (alleged) possession of controlled substances, because you're coming across on the issue as a little touchier than usual. I made a simple, straightforward observation regarding Minister Day's gait. There was no sanctimony.
      And it's likely that your quickness to describe me as a Liberal partisan says more about you than it does about me.

      • Silly me, I didn't realized you were non-partisan. I had some (considerable) difficulty gleaning it from your comments though. Sorry just the same.

        • "Liberal partisan," friend. Can't just up and ignore your own descriptors now, can you? You'll get a reputation. Apology accepted just the same. You and I are still, like, cool?

          • I hope so.

    • Wow someone is grumpy

      • I suppose it is part of our imperfect human nature to find glee in the misfortune of others, it's off-putting all the same and I'm calling people on it (it turns out I cast my net a little too broadly by throwing in craigola in there).

        • Yes, it is part of our imperfect human nature to find glee in the misfortune of others, and if it was Baird, say, or Pollievre or somebody–even Helena, I'd be glee-ing with the best of them. But I don't know, I had hope for Jaffer, I still do. He has proclaimed his innocence and I'd like to think if he were guilty he'd just shut up and not comment at all.

          I did think that display of a Conservative body guard ring was very sad. Sadly necessary. My respect for Helena has gone up a notch–almost to out of the gutter at this point. I think the comments I've heard attributed to her, anyway, have struck the exact right blend of both standing by her husband and not for a second excusing a drug abuser.

  9. So Wherry and his groupies have resorted to trashy gossip—-just trying to find a way to get around the no commenters policy.

    Maybe it would be possible to find out if there are an upcoming divorces on the Hill or could you send some cameras to Toronto to harass a former Attorney-Generals wife.

    • "…or could you send some cameras to Toronto to harass a former Attorney-Generals wife."

      William, William, William…Bryant's a Liberal, he and his family are entitled to their privacy. This is totally different, these people are Conservatives, they and their families get no quarter from our "impartial" media.

      • With the kiddie-glove treatment by the media so far of Jaffer, I'm not sure what you two are bitching about. You better save your lines for the trial/plea deal or however the case is closed.

        Almost sound like a couple of old ladies complaining about someone cheating at bingo.

      • With the kiddie-glove treatment by the media so far of Jaffer, I'm not sure what you two are bitching about. You better save your lines for the acquittal/trial/plea deal or however the case is closed.

        Almost sound like a couple of old ladies complaining about someone cheating at bingo.

        • Hear hear. Two grumpy conservatives. Rude too.

    • "Maybe it would be possible to find out if there are an upcoming divorces on the Hill or could you send some cameras to Toronto to harass a former Attorney-Generals wife."

      Speaking of which, how's the adulterer Vic Toews doing these days?

      • I hear he got himself a nice slave girl from Ruby Dallah

  10. Another reminder of why the media is often — and affectionately, of course – referred to as "vultures."

    And I suppose it would be unbecoming of me to remind people that Jaffer is innocent until proven guilty. Unless, of course, some here believe that Charter rights don't apply to political opponents.

    • You're absolutely right.

      It's always astonishing to me how much the hard-core partisans on both the right and the left resemble each other in terms of tactics and what they consider fair game. Both crow sanctimoniously when the other side does it too.

      This sort of thing, no matter which side is presenting it and which side is suffering from it, diminishes us all.

    • So you support repatriating Omar Khadr?

      • Doesn't everyone? Aside from the current government, I mean?

      • I'll leave that decision to the courts. Although I'm not exactly sure why someone who was acting on foreign soil and is, as a consequence, subject to another country's justice system, has recourse to our Charter.

        Nevertheless, I'm sure we would all agree that Mr. Jaffer certainly does have recourse to it, doesn't he?

        • Khadr, Canadian citizen, was operating on Afghan soil and is being held on leased Cuban soil under an improvised military justice system outside that of the United States. So surely, with four countries one military involved, we could play a role.

          But I digress.

          • He was caught allegedly committing a war crime against the American military and, as a consequence, is being dealt by them.

            And, since we all seem to be digressing here, personally, I think if here were "repatriated", he'd probably be released onto the streets by the same courts that are trying to run our government's foreign policy.

          • "He was caught allegedly committing a war crime against the American military and, as a consequence, is being dealt by them."

            By "dealt" he meant "tortured."

          • No, I don't mean "tortured", since I would need serious proof beyond the words of an alleged terrorist to believe such serious accusations. I guess you don't need such proof.

          • Like a Canadian Court?

          • "I would need serious proof"

            Like a Canadian Court similar to the one which will be dealing with Jaffer's case?

          • I have no reason to believe that an American military court doesn't require serious proof.

            Nevertheless, congratulations in distracting us from the topic of this thread.

            Frankly, I don't think you're interested in discussing Khadr or Jaffer.

          • I'd much rather discuss the Kahdr implications as they are far more important than the present issue with Jaffer.
            The point I am making which some are able to understand is the fact that if we wish to live under a system that believes in presumed innocence we can't pick and choose who to apply it to but must grant that right to all Canadian citizens where ever they may find themselves.
            And as for the Kahdr case you seem to have made up your mind already so what is there to discuss. You are willing to believe the authorities are correct about Kahdr but not correct about Jaffer. I think that is called having your cake and eating it too.

          • Well, considering that this is a thread about Jaffer, I find it curious that you'd use it as an opportunity to discuss Khadr.

            So, if a Cuban citizen is caught murdering someone in Canada, do Cuban rights supercede Canadian rights in that case. Of course not. So, again, I don't understand this Khadr fetish that some people seem to have.

          • I would need serious proof

            Like a Canadian Court similar to the one which will be dealing with Jaffer's case?

        • Khadr, Canadian citizen, was operating on Afghan soil and is being held on leased Cuban soil under an improvised military justice system outside that of the United States. So surely, with four countries one military involved, we could play a role in determining just whose justice system he should be subject to.

          But I digress.

  11. Macleans, all class(eyes roll).

  12. "He's charged, he hasn't been convicted, I don't have any comment."
    "I feel very badly for [Guergis and Jaffer]."

    Linda Duncan, the NDP M.P. who beat Jaffer in the last election, and who Jaffer had accused of being soft on drugs.

    Classy statement from a political rival.

    • Stop it. We don't do class here.

      Besides, the media is doing the " it's a shame because he was a cool guy and we all
      loved him " bit.
      Last I checked he's not dead.

  13. Of course Mr. Jaffer is innocent until proven guilty. Did someone suggest otherwise? If so, where?

    Four ministers walked across Parliament Hill and were asked to comment on the incident. None did. One question posed was whether Ms, Guergis had anything to add since releasing her pro-forma statement, as she said she would. She didn't answer. None of the ministers responded to questions about whether Mr. Jaffer's arrest was troubling for the party given the CPC's high-profile "tough-on-crime" policy stance and their calls for increased sentences for drug offenders.

    They were legit questions, put to government ministers, that went unanswered. The questions and the non-answers appear to be newsworthy.

    • Of course Mr. Jaffer is innocent until proven guilty. Did someone suggest otherwise? If so, where?

      For example, any post that suggests he's a hypocrite for having run anti-drug ads in the last election. If he hasn't been found guilty of any drug-related charges, then he's yet to be proven a hypocrite, right?

  14. Let's hope Rahim pulls himself together, and quickly. Partisan politics aside, people make mistakes and there is no great cause to be made in making Mr Jaffer, Mrs Geurgis or their families or friends any more miserable than they must already be in this.

  15. I'm always surprised at how puling and scoldy the Conservatives become when they're on the receiving end of the "robust adversarilism" they're always championing.

    Stop whining, boys. It's pitiable.

    • Anon/Ti-G*y – never so happy as when he's frolicking in the gutter.

    • I'm never surprised at how Anon/Ti-G*y invariably stakes out the low ground.

      • Diaper change time for little Jarrid.

      • Oh, jarrid: if the Cons weren't always being caught frolicking in the gutter themselves, there would be no issue here.

        Do you think it's cool to drink, snort and drive? Should we all be able to do it, or just conservative hypocrites?

  16. Let's hope Rahim pulls himself together, and quickly. Partisan politics aside, people make mistakes and there is no great cause to be made in making Mr Jaffer, Mrs Geurgis or their families and friends any more miserable than they must already be in this.

    • Look, if Rahim Jaffer was just a young guy who made a bad decision, I'd be all over the "pull yourself together" route.

      Fact is, he's a very recently former right wing politician who has crusaded amongst his constituents as being tough on crime and drugs.

      THAT makes him a hypocrite who makes bad decisions. Save your sympathy for someone more deserving. When you have made your living as a public figure, you come under public scrutiny. And when you break legislation you uphold as vitally important for public safety, you have to answer for it.

      How on earth will he prove innocence — claim that his car was being driven by his former aide, still impersonating him while drunk and on the blow?

      Why are con supporters being so protective — do you really think it's okay for people to drive while drinking and snorting? Man, let people have their drugs and booze, as long as they stay home or call a taxi!

      • I see your points but I wonder if there wouldn't be more to be gained by promoting sensitivity and respect in dealing with these sorts of problems.

    • Oh, please. This is a minor infraction of the type average, unprivileged "little people" deal with all the time. I'm sure they can handle the turmoil. They're public figures, not China dolls.

      • Cocaine possession is a minor infraction? I respond to the charge, not the guilt or innocence of the accused.

  17. Wow, that was a very bizzare piece of footage. As a partisan I'm a touch amused on one level as it is quite a spectacle, ministers walking around in circles on parliament hill, surrounded by media shouting questions they ignore will trying to not let their annoyance and anger show. Actors in a theater of the absurd.

    But as a human I find it rather disturbing that the media are peppering them with questions on drugs and alcohol during a walk to raise money for cancer research. I know the ministers aren't big on accessibility, but it seems like there should be another time and another place than this.

    And then Stock Day comes out in his runners outfit and I can't help but laugh, deja vu of jet skiing outfits past.

    At the end, thougn, as Guergis gets into the car, that reporter was just doing her job. Who was it that seemed to be trying to intimidate her with the "who do you work for! who do you work for!" A Guergis staffer or bodyguard? That was inappropriate.

  18. Interesting that it is only commenters on Conservative blog sites that are calling for Guergis to be removed from cabinet about this. Talk about hypocritical prejudgement.

    • I'm not sure if it would be hypocritical, but it would be prejudgement.

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