Pride and shame


 

Kady notes news of Diane Ablonczy’s potential demise as a result of a grant for the Toronto Pride parade. The controversy itself was actually raised nearly two weeks ago, the Sun getting comment from Charles McVety.

“On June 15,Minister of State Diane Ablonczy delivered a $400,000 cheque to fund Pride,” said McVety. “Taking funds from families during a recession and giving the money to organizers of promiscuous sexual activities is socially egregious, politically damaging, and spiritually catastrophic. Parents are losing their jobs and the government is putting their hard-earned cash towards anti-family activities that ultimately endanger our children.”


 

Pride and shame

  1. Imagine what that money could have done in terms of cleaning up the garbage collecting in Toronto….to avert the cancellation of Canada Day celebrations, for example.

    • So what are you saying? Instead of funding the Pride Parade, the money should have been used to clean up garbage?

      • I'm saying that Toronto held the Pride parade despite the garbage strike but cancelled Canada Day celebrations due to the garbage strike. That $400K might have made a difference.

        • That's one of the most ludicrous things I've heard, especially with this particular federal government. I mean, have you ever heard of a federal government – let alone one that does not like federal governments – interfering in a municipal strike?

      • I'm saying that Toronto held the Pride parade despite the garbage strike but cancelled Canada Day celebrations due to the garbage strike. That $400K might have made a difference, and could have been spent in a manner more consistent with federal government interests.

        • Do you mean by hiring scabs and interfering with a legal strike? That does sound rather Harperish…

        • It should be pointed out that the grant wasn't for the parade, per se, but for Pride Week as an event in total. My understanding is that the money was spent making venues accessible for disabled visitors and hiring performers for the week's festivities. Maybe some of the money went toward the parade, maybe not, but most certainly the money didn't all go to the parade, and I don't think more than 50% (if that) did.

    • I imagine the money was committed before the strike was announced, and that increasing scab labour would have made affairs even worse over the long term.

      Nice try though.

  2. Why is McVety considered a credible source on CPoC motivation?

    Or on anything, for that matter.

    • Exactly.

    • Actually, that May be overstating it, McVety travels in much the same circles as CL.

  3. And that the Ministry of Tourism doesn't fund municipal wast pick up.

  4. McVety disapproves? Well then, off with her head!

  5. Makes you wonder who is pulling the strings at the PMO, or at least who the PMO is listening to when trying to curry favour with its social conservative "base".

  6. Notwithstanding the government's right to fund what it deems fit, this is just further demonstration of how this government doesn't govern *for* citizens, it governs *to* constituents. If you are not a potential vote and/or the Conservative base, you don't exist as far as these guys are concerned. The gays will never be part a Conservative constituency, so they will never (again) get government funding.

    • Notwithstanding the government's right to fund what it deems fit

      Of course, the irony and hypocrisy and crass political opportunism of this government is that one of the primary ideological and policy motivators behind the Reform/Conservative Party and Mr. Firewall Harper in particular is that the government in fact does not have a right to fund what it deems fit.

      I know, I know, I know. That was before they got into government and deemed all inconvenient principles no longer applicable to themselves. But still, you wouldn't know this by looking at them, but once upon a time, this party actually did say they have principles. Or at least said they had certain principles.

  7. I am deeply disappointed with this government. More so than usual.

  8. Here in SK, our provincial conservative party is also hard at work, trying to have the SK court of appeal over rule the Supreme Court decision that the marriage commissioners here, who perform civil services, have to perform gay marriages. They want to let them opt out if they are anti-gay.

    Next up: conservative nurses can opt out of caring for homosexual patients.

    • That story has been bothering me! They are civil servants. Are we now giving civil servants the right to discriminate while doing their job??? Whats next? We allow them to say no to marrying interracial couples?

      The Sask party has me in a rage!

      • Or the girl is too young or fat for the man, or the man is too paunchy or pimply for the girl.

        Don Morgan has had several gaffes, but he's the only lawyer in the SP caucus, so they have no choice. I'm sure they realize this will never happen, but like the harper MPs, they are pandering to their base — look we tried kind of stuff.

  9. Wait, a Conservative cabinet minister actually did something to help the Pride activists and the gays??
    HMM hello isn't that big news. Maybe they're not as socially un-progressive as we thought.

  10. Maybe I'm confused because I would think Minister gives money to pride= good news story and Government slaps minister on wrist for giving money to pride = bad news story.____Doesn't the federal government always give money to pride?____Michael Ignatieff and Jack Layton march in the parade.__Provincial Tories usually have a float.____Small town, social conservatives from the Prairies should but out of Toronto's business. If the Stampede can get federal funds so should pride. We don't need politicians or bureaucrats making moral judgements on public events or books and films for that matter.__

    • Spare us from the likes of George Strombolopolous, Lawrence Martin, and the rest of the Eastern bash-Alberta gang, and then we'll talk..er..won't talk.

      "Small town, social conservatives from the Prairies should but out of Toronto's business."
      Fine with that, as long we are granted the same privacy in return. Ah…Canada, how I love thee.

      • And the Firewalling of Alberta continues.

      • Almost 2 million bucks to the Stampede.

      • Why do you guys always want to fight. This is 2009 – not the late 1800's cowboy days

  11. If that's how they feel, then the gay and lesbian community shouldn't have to pay taxes. Those tax monies come from all walks of life, political stripes, rich, poor, gay and heterosexual – how the hell can anyone with a brain decide that all who pay taxes shouldn't benefit from them.

  12. "Parents are losing their jobs and the government is putting their hard-earned cash towards anti-family activities that ultimately endanger our children.”

    Oooh, I think they're softening up. Homosexuality no longer directly endangers children, just ultimately.

  13. What does Tom Lukiwski have to say?