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Sarah Palin is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life


 

With Gallup’s help, let me predict and explain all the reaction, pro and con, you’re going to hear over the next little while to Sarah Palin’s convention speech, her selection, and the various controversies that append thereto:

She excites the Republican base and turns off everyone else. She’s like Keith’s: Those who like it, like it a lot. She’s like that line George Will likes to quote: If you like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing you’ll like.

Small problem: in 2008, the Republican base isn’t wide enough to win a presidential election. But tonight, as our Luiza has been chronicling from the centre of it all, the base is very happy.


 
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Sarah Palin is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life

  1. Is it just me, or does she have a Canadian accent? Canadian raising, even pronouncing “about” properly.

    That’s gotta help with the mass appeal, no?

  2. She’ll get people out to vote. That’s what community organizers are for, right?

  3. You don’t think she appeals to people outside the base? Really?

  4. I would absolutely be happy to hear from anyone who preferred one or several of Dukakis, Clinton, Gore or Kerry to their opponents in 1988-2004 and who has warmed to McCain after this speech.

  5. Jack Mitchell — I had that same thought about her accent.

    Yupper — I think she handled herself with a lot of dignity and spunk. I think they will benefit from the fact that expectations have been set so very low by the coverage of the past few days.
    I now think she will attract more interest from undecideds than I thought before hearing her speak. But there are armies of reporters investigating her right now so who knows what could pop up in the coming weeks. But I think she’s got everyone’s attention now.

  6. Is it just me, or does she have a Canadian accent? Canadian raising, even pronouncing “about” properly.

    I don’t think so. It’s more like a Idaho/Washington accent.

  7. Paul, given that she went straight after the upper crust media coctail party crowd,

    we’ll forgive you for this little bit of wishful thinking.

    The reality is this speech was a home run.

    The Obama camp reaction: “this is just more George Bush.” I wasn’t aware of the fact that GWB was a hockey mom that took on special interests in Alaska.

    She’s going to wipe the floor with Biden’s behind in the VP debates.

  8. The Obama camp reaction: “this is just more George Bush.”
    “W” as a lipstick-wearing pit bull. Now there’s a visual I need before falling asleep…

  9. I agree. Wells misses the point.

    She speaks to people in a more connected way than Biden or even Hillary. She seems like a neighbour.

    To be fair Wells, you are not the audience she is seeking. You know that.

    You’re more the stuffwhitepeoplelike.com crowd.

    Palin seems normal. She seems grounded. She seems genuine. And she looks like she shops at Wal-Mart.

    Palin’s not supposed to appeal to people that live in the Annex and buy fair trade coffee.

    She’s offering change that doesn’t come packaged with smug. There’s a big market for that.

  10. And she looks like she shops at Wal-Mart.
    Fun fact: there are 2 Wal-Marts in Anchorage, one in Wasilla, and one in between in Eagle River.
    Quick, Palin family, the sale on diapers ends Saturday.
    News you need to know, a public service from the MYL News Desk.

  11. Palin seems normal. She seems grounded. She seems genuine. And she looks like she shops at Wal-Mart.

    Is that where she expected to purchase the 400 million dollar bridge to nowhere?

  12. Rural VS Urban….

  13. And that precious downs syndrome baby that she lovingly caressed on stage after the speech (which Hillary’s campaing guru afterward called priceless),

    obviously both the child being born, the hardship she endured in the decision to keep and then raise the child, the character that displays, and the human touch this displays to the average American,

    was concocted by Karl Rove with the eeeeevil hand of Bush (neocon Satan) pulling the strings.

  14. From the same polling Wells looks at (or another poll I saw today somewhere):

    66% of Americans have no opinion on Ms. Palin. And 23% of the 33% who do look upon her favourably.

    She is going to do fine among the white suburban women she was supposed to.

  15. ÈI would absolutely be happy to hear from anyone who preferred one or several of Dukakis, Clinton, Gore or Kerry to their opponents in 1988-2004 and who has warmed to McCain after this speech.”

    Paul,

    with due respect, all of those people lost their elections – even Gore with an asterisk (we aren’t about to recount New Mexico too, are we?). They can keep their votes. The rest is a larger pool than those votes.

    She was amazing.

    The governor of Hawaii was terrific.

    Guiliani was awesome.

    And mayors don’t get to vote “present” on tough calls.

    The Obama elan has just gone poof in my unbiased opinion.

  16. She claims to have been against the bridge to nowhere, contradicting yesterday’s NYT article. Must be a matter of public record. Either she’s lying or the Times is.

  17. I think the moment of the night has to go to Giuliani, a twice-divorced mayor of New York mocking Obama for being “cosmopolitan”. Hooray for Republican adherence to principle!

  18. I don’t think everyone will like Palin’s political message, but the vast majority of people are going to like Palin. That is the Republican advantage that emerged tonight.

  19. Keith Olbermann said this of Sarah Palin’s speech “People who like this sort of thing will find this… the sort of thing they like.”

    OMG – Paul Wells and Keith Olbermann have the same talking points. Why doesn’t this surprise me.

  20. While Paul and Keith are down in the mouth about tonight’s speech, the phrase “A star is born” is on more than one commentator’s lips.

  21. How jejune.

  22. Speaking of Trig Palin, there was something SO distasteful about him being passed around from family member to family member so that they could have lots of cute cutaway shots. Apparently, Palin’s family is a suitable political asset, except when the big bad “liberal” media asks questions about it. Speaking of which, the baby daddy cleans up nice for a self-described redneck.

  23. Good lord Macleans has been infested with conservative talking points. (small c.)

    She was amazing.
    The governor of Hawaii was terrific.
    Guiliani was awesome.
    And mayors don’t get to vote “present” on tough calls.
    The Obama elan has just gone poof in my unbiased opinion.

    moderate voter Lightning round: what city was John McCain mayor of? What state was he governor of?

  24. Wow. A lot of koolaid drinkers here or the same person re-typing different accolades under new identities?

    She was preaching to the converted tonight.

    Any independent will wonder why she spent a lot of her time LYING outright. And being so hateful.

    The difference between the McCain/Palin Obama/Biden ticket couldn’t be any more glaring than tonight.

    Biden and Obama talked about ISSUES that are important this election cycle.

    She talked about her family and hockey and pit bulls and POWs.

    Biden doesn’t need to worry about being wiped by this wannabe attack dog.

    Let’s see how she does during an interview without the soft landing she has. Let’s see how well she does when she’s not looking at a teleprompter. Let’s see how well she does when it’s a non-partisan crowd.

    You can’t cry sexism when you’re the one doing the attacking.

    She’s toast. She’s going to embarrass hockey moms everywhere.

  25. Yes Tania, she was so hateful. WTF are you talking about?

  26. Gentry,

    Andrew Sullivan was making the same complaint. They were also “distastefully” passing the baby’s bottle to one another.

    You obviously have never had a baby who’s had to sit in one place for a long time. I’d venture to guess you’ve never had a baby or ever had to care for one.

    “Passing the restless baby” is as natural as wiping their nose.

    More to the point, don’t you just love where the detractors have to go?

    Two words: more please.

  27. “She’s going to wipe the floor with Biden’s behind in the VP debates.”

    I don’t think some of those words have the meaning you think they do.

  28. kody, Palin has to decide: is her family going to be front-and-centre, or is it off-limits? Can’t have it both ways.

  29. “Yes Tania, she was so hateful. WTF are you talking about?”

    You don’t think she was? Mocking, disrespectful, classless, mean-spirited, dripping contempts for the careers and achievements of others. A very poor performance indeed, devoid of any substance, lacking any concrete proposals, she seemed, by turns, like a bad stand-up comedian, a bride giving a speech at her wedding reception, and Tracey Flick.

  30. I think Gentry is a little strong, but I in many places she was walking a very fine line between feisty and smug. And smug isn’t going to play into her “narrative” very well.

  31. gentry: nope I didn’t get any of that. Were we watching the same speech? Maybe you were watching reruns of the Clintons.

    Mike: who knows about the freaking narrative? I am willing to bet the GOP gets a substantial lift on this one. Any takers?

  32. It’s so wonderful to see that Canada is just like other modern industrial democracies, where ruling parties beat the press corps into submission with scurrilous, amorphous charges of “bias,” then reap the rewards when reporters come crawling back.

    Allegedly-liberal MSNBC was a theatre of the absurd after the Palin speech. Chris Matthews looked bewildered but unwilling to criticize. David Gregory looked like he wanted to elope with Palin himself. Over the next few week, in an attempt to make nice with McCain and pander to the people they assume love Palin, the American media is going to make the Parliamentary Press Gallery look like Wellington at Waterloo

  33. Gentry,

    “off limits”??

    So the typical practice of having the families on stage (as Obama did with his two adorable daughters),

    if its a republican, that means, what? Destroying a seventeen year old girl?

    Americans will recoil at the notion of putting a target on children, given that most Americans, unlike yourself, have a certain level of decency that partisan politics cannot disturb.

  34. Given that this was the first time more than 6 people listened to her speak, it might have been a good idea to strike a more conciliatory tone, or at least aim for a little more humility and a little less mocking.

    I mean, whatever, everyone is seeing in her speech what they want to see. What *is* becoming apparent is that the McCain campaign is largely abandoning the appeal to independents and has focussed on trying to retain the base.

  35. “Americans will recoil at the notion of putting a target on children, given that most Americans, unlike yourself, have a certain level of decency that partisan politics cannot disturb.”

    Absolutely, which is why most Americans will find something more than vaguely creepy about parading a special needs baby for the benefit of cable news.

    Hey, maybe if her mom promoted sex education in schools, Bristol wouldn’t be in her current predicament? I could just about see the shotgun behind Levi Johnston’s back.

  36. It might have been a good idea to strike a more conciliatory tone, but she took a chance and pulled it off admirably. Andrew’s observation was surprising (I was too young and socialistic to be drawn into the cult of Reagan), but I have to admit, I wasn’t expecting much from her and she really made an impression on me. YMMV.

  37. Mike: who knows about the freaking narrative?

    Reagan’s speechwriter, apparently.

  38. She did good.

  39. The wife and I watched Sarah P tonight, concerned that she might faceplant and end the campaign right then and there. Halfway through we both agreed, she’ll do fine. I don’t agree with the others that she will eat Biden’s lunch during the VP debate, but she demonstrated that she won’t back down if the going gets tough, which is just as important.

    I can’t say I agree with Paul W’s assessment about the speech. She was speaking, to borrow a phrase, to Dougie, Mike and Theresa, and did an effective job of it (from where I stood). This election is going to turn on what the chattering classes call the “domestic agenda”. She addressed that in her speech mentioning health care, education and economic growth. Those are the issues that governors deal with day in, day out, so I think that she won’t have any problem when it comes to the VP debate. Joe B, meanwhile, prides himself on his extensive knowledge of foreign affairs, like an old State Dept “China Hand”. Unfortunately, whenever he talks about those things, he comes across like a Dexter, that is, a bit too wonkish for the average voter. I’m not saying that she’ll clean his clock, but it won’t be a one-sided affair; and there remains a good chance that he will wind up being judged the loser by the handicappers.

    I’m actually very impressed by the final line-up for this year’s campaign. I think both parties have their A squads in the game, each with obvious strengths, and a few shortcomings. It’s all very real-word.

    Oh, BTW, the best line of the night was from Mike Huckabee…”Sarah Palin got more votes for mayor of Wasilla, than Joe Biden got for president of the United States.” Ouch…that’s gotta hurt.

  40. Cute democratic children on stage: good

    Downs syndrome children: to be kept under the floor boards where the belong, lest they disturb our political viewing pleasure.

    Today’s tolerant left.

  41. “Cute democratic children on stage: good
    Downs syndrome children: to be kept under the floor boards where the belong, lest they disturb our political viewing pleasure.
    Today’s tolerant left.”

    It’s really something to get lectured on tolerance by conservatives but okay. Not sure where you got the idea I endorsed anyone’s children being used as political props, but tonight was a particularly egregious case. If that’s the road Palin has chosen, that’s fine, but she can’t simultaneously highlight her children for political ends, and complain about how they should be verboten to the media.

  42. Obama’s kids were handed microphones and actually spoke.

    Palin’s kids shouldn’t even be allowed stage. Why? Because they have a downs child.

    Shame on you.

  43. Umm, yeah. I haven’t watched any of the convention propaganda, but now I’m curious.

    Every politician puts their families on stage during major events. It helps to humanize them and show that they’re family people like you and I. So did something happen here that makes this case more ‘egregious’ than usual? Or is it just inappropriate to show a Downs Syndrome baby in public?

    Although I’d vote Obama if I could, I’m not following this particular criticism of Palin. And my son is young enough that I’m fully in agreement with the “pass the baby to keep him happy” crowd, while we’re on the subject. I still don’t have all my sleep back.

    Now on economic and foreign policy issues, the Republicans suck. Much more fertile and suitable ground for anti-McCain/Palin ranting, I think.

  44. Joe Klein writes on the Time blog: “it is important for the public to know that Palin raised taxes as governor, supported the Bridge to Nowhere before she opposed it, pursued pork-barrel projects as mayor, tried to ban books at the local library and thinks the war in Iraq is “a task from God.””

  45. Palin sounded awfully smug to me. I was expecting more class from her… last friday she spoke quite well. Though her attack’s on Obama were pretty good. That should allow Biden some elbow room, no? It will be interesting to watch.

    The Grand Old Party, Washington outsiders? Reformers? Sounds kind of goofy to me.

  46. I listened to Palin’s speech and honestly, it was just horrible. I moved to Alaska just a couple of months ago and discoverd in less than a week that the governor was the most scandalous person in the state. I believe she is naive to the fact that the Rebublican party is using her to do their dirty work while she thinks she is doing something positive. How sad.

    She is unknown, no one cares about her, she doesn’t make a difference in the campaign. If this country elects McCain as president then it goes to show that they are ok with the same thing, going to war over oil not weapons of mass distruction, and a weak decling dollar that has been backed by oil since 1974. Saudi Arabia stopped using the dollar for oil purchases in 2000, look at what happened, Iran announced in 2003 that it would prefer Euros over dollars for oil, now they are manufacturing nuculear weapons. See where this is going. The American people should be tired of being lied to, our soldiers are not fighting for our freedom, they are fighting for the oil that fills the pockets of Republican politicians while hardworking citizens are loosing jobs so big business can take jobs overseas to increase profits by paying less to foreign workers. If we elect McCain and Palin to run this country they will continue to run it in the ground just as the Bush administration did. Tired of the same thing, there has to be something better out there. No matter how wonderful a speech sounds at the end of the day it is still all hot air. Who would believe the republican party now after we have been lied to constantly, lost the lives of our soldiers for reasons beyond the truth, and for keeping a President in office that would have been impeached 50 times if he were a democrat. I guess that little loop hole that prevents impeaching a president during war times was created for a reason!!!!! Besides, it seems like the only place you can do dirt and get away with it is to either be a celebrity or a Republican politician.

  47. Best political speech to come out of this election so far.

    “The presidency is not meant to be a journey of self discovery.”

    Zing!

  48. Chuckercanuck, I believe you’ll find that Clinton got elected president twice. You could look it up. The 1988 and 2000 elections were won with a concerted appeal to moderate swing voters(“kinder, gentler/ thousand points of light” and “compassionate conservative/ soft bigotry of low expectations”).

    I’ve seen nothing in this comment thread that would lead me to amend my prediction, which was twofold: Palin doesn’t help rally moderates and independents to the McCain ticket, but the base loves her. Unless Yupper, Kody and Jarrid were planning to celebrate an Obama victory, they’re just proving my point. Poor Kody, especially, continues to suffer from a serious reading-comprehension problem.

  49. Look, Bush won with Cheney. CHENEY. Twice. They beat the lovable John “Two America, Two wives” Edwards who moms of all kinds and ages loved.

    Women are not stupid. Neither are men. An attractive woman will have some appeal, but once they bring up that she is against choice (even for rape and incest), and on and on, we’ll see where it all goes.

    They should have gone with Kay Bailey. She could have given them all that, plus the gravitas which could have moved some votes.

    This is just a desperate play. It most certainly will not work in the congressional and senate races, and unless Biden literally reaches over the table and tries to strangle Palin in the debates, won’t affect the Presidential race either.

  50. I think Kay Bailey is cool too, but there’s age issue. I don’t know her age, but she looked positively ancient on Hardball the other night. Couldn’t pair her with a man as old as John McCain.

  51. She’s 65 Jack.

  52. The problem with most of the pro-Republicans here is their apparent penchant for using language as a weapon instead of a means of communication and understanding. Why do they feel the need to be so belligerent?

  53. 65? Really? Well, she looks older than my grandmother, and she sounds almost as wise.

  54. Hey Paul, I guess no one else got the Manchurian Candidate reference. Please don’t give in to the desire to give up your subtlety.

  55. Scott wins the steak knives!

  56. Palin was fantastic. She’s a happy warrior and that’s what people are going to like, sticking the shiv into Democrats with a smile is a great talent that will take her a long way.

    What I realized last night is that Dems are the party of victims, everyone is in need of one social welfare program or another and it gets tiresome from people living in one of the richest countries in the world. People like optimism and hope, not the gloomy gus outlook of the Dems.

  57. I’ve read all your comments with interest.

    I’m a woman, but I wouldn’t give Sarah Palin the time of day with my vote. I’ve taken the time to objectively list the pros and cons of this whole scenario and I’ve concluded I could never vote for the McCain/Palin ticket. Not now. Not ever.

    First, it’s McCain who’s running for President, not Palin. She’s part of the deal, though, and that’s a deal breaker for me. Would I really want her to be President, should something happen to McCain? Not now. Not ever. And I base it solely on this: Joe Biden, a deal maker in my opinion, has deeply rooted relationships in Washington and around the world, where Sarah Palin is a self-proclaimed outsider. So I asked myself, could hockey-mom lead a pack of seasoned politicians with whom she has no relationship whatsoever, or gain the respect of world leaders in ever-increasingly unstable times? And the ONLY answer to that question is NO. Not now. Not ever. No way. No how.

  58. Notice the hubby and second-oldest daughter holding the baby? Gimme a break!

  59. She claims to have been against the bridge to nowhere, contradicting yesterday’s NYT article. Must be a matter of public record. Either she’s lying or the Times is.

    She is. Here’s a picture in which she demonstrates her support for it. And if you do any research on her at all, you’ll find that, like most Alaskans (and Republicans, for that matter), she sees nothing hypocritical about accepting government largesse as she complains about government handouts…

  60. Wanda – in a world where Ted Stevens exists, Palin just can’t be the most scandalous person in AK. Maybe if Google puts a joke about her in their new browser I’ll believe it (type about:internets to see all the lovely tubes)

    Anon – KBH is pro-choice and therefore disqualified by those who abhor Trudeau’s dictum about the state and bedrooms.

    As for those who reckon Karl Rove is behind Palin, they didn’t see Jon Stewart’s blast from the (recent) archives where Rove lashed Tim Kaine being on the shortlist because he was only a mayor of a teeny spot and after that Governor for about as long as Palin.

  61. “Chef in Blairsville”

    The difference between Palin and Obama is that Obama *will* be behind the desk in the Oval Office if elected, whereas Palin’s presence there will be governed by the vagaries of McCain’s health.

    Once again though I am struck as I was in 2000 and 2004 by the thought – 300 million people and this is the best four you could come up with?

  62. As I read these posts day after day all I keep thinking is I bloody wish our political leaders had to choose Deputy Prime Minister running mates in our elections!

  63. Every four years, the selection of the VP causes a feeding frenzy of varying intensity amongst partisans and the media. About a week after the final convention wraps up, it disappears. By next Monday, Sarah Palin and Joe Biden will be off doing what VP candidates traditionally do – hitting the secondary media markets, attending fundraisers, and trying to stay out of trouble. (I’ve got a twoonie that says Biden puts his foot in his mouth before Palin does.) The focus will return to the top of the respective tickets, and will largely stay there until November 4.

    It’s a nice fantasy for the GOP to think that Palin will cause a large movement of swing voters to their side, but I don’t think that’s going to happen. Nor will she drive them away. At the end of the day, swing voters, who by definition are people who are not terribly pre-occupied with politics, are going to make up their minds based on the top of the ticket.

    What Palin HAS done for McCain, as has been discussed previously, is fire up his base. Palin helps him bridge the rather large gap that had emerged between the two camps in terms of fundraising and a ground game. If the race is still close right down to the wire, that will be critical. As an added bonus, the GOP has found a charismatic, likeable star candidate who, even if the ticket loses, instantly becomes a strong contender for 2012.

  64. This is the beginning of the end for Obama/Biden. Its like a bad Sylvester Stallone movie, every time you think McCain is down and out he arises from the mud with his hands around your neck, and Obama has a very skinny neck.

  65. But how is she going to play with the Dental-assistants-who-are-thinking-of-returning-to- school-to-be-real-estate-agents-one-day demographic?

  66. Besides, it seems like the only place you can do dirt and get away with it is to either be a celebrity or a Republican politician-Wanda

    Chicago is a great place for this kind of stuff, Wanda, and Chicago Democrats are famous for it. In fact, considering where he spent his political career, it is probably a point in his favour that he has only terrorist and slum lord associations to deal with; it could be much worse.

  67. “This is the beginning of the end for Obama/Biden.”

    I’m not so sure about that, Eric. The Obama team has stayed “on message” consistently throughout the primaries and the convention (one can argue that the content of the message is vague, but then so is McCain’s). McCain, in trying to solidify the base vote, now has to juggle two divergent claims: one of the defender of Republican values and traditions, and one of the “maverick” who non-Republicans can safely trust to do the right thing. The Republican “message” was made even muddier last night by the “we’re going to change Washington” stance. Just how do they plan to do that with a platform that is indiscernible from Bush’s in any substantial manner?

    Conservatives always project well when surrounded by adoring sycophants. They generally crash and burn when subjected to genuine scrutiny and skepticism. (That’s why they hate the press so much, and have to resort to false claims of liberal bias in the media.)

    Palin will help McCain shore up the core vote, but his potential to broaden his appeal has come to an end.

  68. and that base is big. Republicans are generally cool towards McCain because he’s too liberal on moral issues. She can get these people to actually show up. The Democrats are also split. Will Biden get the Hillary moms, the racist blue collar workers or Hispanics to appear when they’re needed? The Democratic base is not coming out to vote.

  69. “Chicago is a great place for this kind of stuff, Wanda, and Chicago Democrats are famous for it. In fact, considering where he spent his political career, it is probably a point in his favour that he has only terrorist and slum lord associations to deal with; it could be much worse.”

    By comparison to Alaska, Chicago is the freakin’ Norway of electoral politics. In a state where all of the top elected officials (who all happen to be Republican, including “reformist” Gov. Palin) are either under indictment or investigation, it gets a little difficult to escape unsavoury associations.

  70. One thing struck me: if elected, she will be a rare person in Washington in having a family member serving in the army in Iraq. One of the few things that I agreed with Michael Moore about was the remarkable absence in the US armed forces of any relative of the power brokers in Washington.

  71. “Will Biden get the Hillary moms, the racist blue collar workers or Hispanics to appear when they’re needed? ”

    Nope, but Palin will!

    In fact, in a few days, after the dust settled, the longest-lasting consequence of her speech (and of her being chosen as VP) is to motivate the hell out of the last few fence-sitting Democrats to vote Obama.

  72. Bruce, re: the family thing, James Fallows has already articulated it better than I could have:

    Barack Obama has used his family as a prop from time to time — most recently, bringing the charming girls onto the stage at the end of his convention speech. That’s life in politics; everybody does it to some degree.Very few politicians do it as all-out as Sarah Palin just did, from citing the disabilities of her youngest child as part of her resume to including the shotgun groom of her elder daughter. I can’t recall any spectacle comparable to Baby Trig being passed from Cindy McCain, to Trig’s 7-year-old sister, to Palin herself when she ended the speech.

  73. Yupper: “Palin seems normal. She seems grounded. She seems genuine. And she looks like she shops at Wal-Mart. ”

    Are you kidding me? She looks like she shops at Chanel on 5th Avenue! I’ve never seen a woman looking like that in Walmart!

  74. The reaction she has received from the mainstream press and from people like Paul Wells smacks of elitism. I may be wrong but elitism is not something that the American voter is happy with.

  75. I don’t know gentry. It seems to me the mom thing is going to win some Hilaryites, the working class husband will win over some of the blue collar vote, and in spite of his back-pedaling, McCain has an appealing attitude towards immigration. Of course many Dems will be blinded by their fear of the VP single-handedly repealing Roe vs. Wade in the face of both Democratically-controlled houses and a fundamentally liberal administration (er, except for the war monger thing; he’s got to work on that, but I suspect it’s in his blood).

    I wish McCain hadn’t rolled over on Bush’s tax cuts, but if I think he’s much more likely to take on the unfettered abuses of the current administration than Obama. At least we know what deals McCain has made to get the nomination. What promises has Obama made to his string-pullers?

  76. Governor Palin’s speech was one of the best I’ve ever heard. She said it like it is, unlike the mindless sheep who adore Obama, even though he’s just an empty suit. Most of the negative blogs on this site appear to have been written before the speech was even given. Comments by brain washed Obamabots, who infect the blog sites with the same sarcastic partisan posts, no matter what the story is about. Keep America strong, elect McCain / Palin in November. No Wright, no Farrakahn, no Ayers, no Rezko, no mean Michelle, NOBAMA

  77. As a parent, I do feel obligated to tell Gentry that the game of, “pass the restless baby” is a very common one. When my kids were babies, friends and family members would always take their turn holding them, thus giving my wife and I a break. Now that our kids are older, I am always happy to return the favour for new parents.

    Even McCain’s most bitter opponents would have to acknowledge that it was a brilliant move to bring Bristol Palin’s boyfriend to the convention. Talk about taking lemons and making lemonade – instead of trying to hide the problem, they hang a lantern on it, so to speak, and make it into a family values positive. It has made the GOP base love Palin even more, if that is possible, and it lays down a very clever trap for the Democrats. If they want to take a run at Palin’s family, they risk ticking off all sorts of key demographics, and making this into a values contest that the Democrats will lose. Obama himself, no fool he, has wisely refused to take the bait, but that doesn’t mean that some of his less disciplined surrogates will be able to avoid the temptation.

  78. Real classy reporting from the CBC’s Neil MacDonald, floating an already-debunked “rumour” that Sarah Palin faked the maternity of her baby Trig, and that her daughter Bristol was Trig’s actual mother.

    Absolutely inexcusable. It seems there is no mud puddle the MSM won’t slither into to slag this woman.

    Macdonald’s head should roll for this.

  79. As an Alaskan, I was surprised that Sarah Palin claimed in her acceptance speech that “I told the Congress “thanks, but no thanks,” for that Bridge to Nowhere”, when she actually campaigned FOR the TWO “Bridges to Nowhere” when she was running for Governor, and then didn’t kill either one, and certainly didn’t give the earmarks back! John McCain fought hard against the $223 Million earmarks for the Gravina Island Bridge near Ketchikan, and $230 Million for the Knik Arm Bridge.

    Gov. Palin did stop the Gravina Island Bridge, but still kept the money from the earmark, and spent $24 Million from the earmark to build a road towards where the bridge might be built.

    The other Bridge to Nowhere, the Knik Arm Bridge is still alive and has so far spent over $40 Million and is not yet designed or permitted.

    Too bad that Gov. Palin’s introduction to the Nation included lies.

  80. Dang, I knew it was from the Manchurian Candidate too, but I didn’t get here in time.

    Palin’s voice reminds me of Marge Gunderson (Frances Mcdormand) in “Fargo”: “There’s more to life than a little bit of money. Doncha know that?” Her character was hugely pregnant too, but you’ll have to show Neil Macdonald the tape.

    If Trig hadn’t been in the hall, people would have been asking whey they were “hiding” him. Feh.

  81. P.S. I think what’s going on here is that Obama has gone a long way on the novelty of his story and background, and that novelty has now worn off somewhat.

    Palin is another novelty in terms of story and background, but a fresher one. Whether that novelty will last another two months, I guess we will see.

  82. Joan’s absolutely right on that last point. The lady has a family. The family came to her speech. The baby needs a lot of attention and, I am quite sure, gets it even when there are no cameras around. There is plenty to criticize, but if any of you were picked as the vice-presidential candidate of a major political party — and, apparently, it can now happen to just about anyone — you’d want your family there, and you’d be properly appalled if millions of strangers seized on that wish as some kind of character flaw. I obviously wasn’t thrilled by Palin’s speech, but it is profoundly creepy to hear people who pride themselves on their sophistication referring to her child as a “prop.”

  83. A letter from someone who has known Sarah Palin since 1992

    From: http://my2bucks.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/a-letter-from-someone-who-has-known-sarah-palin-since-1992/

    Also

    http://www.washingtonindependent.com/3671/the-reform-candidate

    This is a balanced and fascinating chronicle of Palin’s public service. I would strongly recommend that both conservatives and liberals read this. If fiscal conservatives think that she will help McCain get the economy because of her ‘executive’ experience you really NEED to read this. She left Wasila, a town with zero debt prior to her tenure as mayor, 22 million dollars in debt. Yikes. A McCain/Palin administration would truly be third term of Bush when it comes to a tanking economy.
    The veep selection process demonstrates that a McCain vote in November is a vote for Captain Chaos. From Cowboy Bush to Chaos McCain. Run in the opposite direction America.

  84. “The reaction she has received from the mainstream press and from people like Paul Wells smacks of elitism. I may be wrong but elitism is not something that the American voter is happy with.”

    And having “Joe Average” as president has proven to be such a success for the American people. I fail to understand why the majority of people want the leader of the most powerful nation on earth (for now anyway) to be an average “one of us” on every level? Do they want their doctors to be everyday sort of folks too? Embracing the lowest common denomenator of society is not a way to chose a President. A little elitism might do everyone some good.

    And maybe Obama isn’t the answer, but can we at least stop penalizing people for being educated and stop viewing the President of the USA as a position to be held by someone who reminds me of my favourite Aunt Betty or the good mechanic in town!?!

    As for Chris…….YIKES!

  85. Er, maybe if Palin didn’t use him as a prop, maybe it would be improper to refer to him as such. But if she’s going to use her family in lieu of a resume, she can’t expect that no one will call her on it.

    Put another way, Palin is the one who decided she could score political points by parading her kids in front of the media. It’s unfortunate, yeah, but the decision was entirely hers.

  86. Palin was speaking to the base, which McCain needs to mobilize in order to get out the vote. I don’t think she is an utter flop among independents though (for reference I would have voted Democrat 1992-2004 and would vote for McCain in ’08), as she opens up some potential room to maneuver.

    -attack Washington and in particular, congress (which has even lower approval ratings than Bush), tying Obama to Pelosi and Reid.

    -she can attract SOME Hillary voters. If you look at who voted for Clinton in particular, she had strengths with…
    working class women
    old people
    hispanic voters
    gender voters (15-20% of primary voters for Clinton said they voted primarily out of gender)

    Palin helps with 1 and 4. Now I know what you are saying about group 4 – ABORTION! But reality is not what you would suspect – women are actually more likely to be pro-life than men (there is a pro-choice majority in each case).

    SurveyUSA asked about abortion in its primary polls. In Ohio, their poll of likely primary voters found 36% that were pro-life, 61% were pro-choice. Clinton led among pro-life voters 52-45, and among pro-choice voters 56-42.

    So there is a market for Palin among the 18 million Clinton voters – the third of Clinton voters that are pro-life, the ~35% with high school or less (a proxy for working class) and the 20% of Clinton voters that are gender voters.

    That will have to compensate loss of moderate voters overall, who are repelled by Palin’s stance on abortion (which is not radically difference from McCain’s, but people don’t perceive McCain as hardcore pro-life).

  87. Speaking of the baby, Don Newman and Henry Champ just now echoed the “prop” allegation on Newsworld’s “Politics”, buttressed by “women I was speaking to” (Newman) and, apparently, comments on the CBC’s website. A shortened Politics repeats at 7:30 EST so there may be a chance to see it again.

    As I said in another forum yesterday, what has been emanating from the mouths and keyboards of liberals and feminists in the last few days is making me laugh my kiester off. There’s nothing like a minority or female with the “wrong” views to expose some interesting double standards.

    I’ve never been keen on McCain (too much media-courting and carrying water for the Dems), and my expectation is still that Obama will win, the Dems will gain seats in the Senate and take the House again. But ever since the Britney-Paris ad, this has sure been entertaining.

  88. pw says: The baby needs a lot of attention and, I am quite sure, gets it even when there are no cameras around.

    I guess if one wanted to pursue this angle (and I certainly won’t) the real test of the “prop” allegation would be to compare the number of attention givers with the previous public appearance, where all I saw were photos of him resting comfortably on eldest daughter’s lap/belly.

    However, the coverage then wasn’t extensive.

  89. Paul Wells wrote: “…it is profoundly creepy to hear people who pride themselves on their sophistication referring to her child as a “prop.” ”

    Agreed. Palin is the real “prop” in all of this.

  90. One thing about Palin is she seems to be drawing a lot more fire than Biden hmmmmmmmmmm! Where there is fire there just might be some smoke. Me thinks left wing nuts are getting a little touchy … good!

  91. Wayne you’re right. McCain should have taken up Biden’s offer to be his running mate. But I guess then the fact that he said that Mr Obama is “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy” would probably come back to haunt him.

  92. Wayne ‘When you are taking flak, you know you are over the target’, as my grandfather use to say.

  93. What people have seen of Palin so far is a week of unbroken media criticism followed by the best crafted speech she’ll ever give. This is not a typical week for her. Whether or not she appeals beyond the base will depend on what her typical weeks look like. The polls right now don’t tell the story, just what the story will be if the campaign team doesn’t use the numbers to decide their strategy for her.

    Also, I’m pretty sure only a guy with no children would react this way, but when she held her baby on stage after the speech, my first thought was: if she drops that thing this election is OVER.

  94. I’m still thoroughly looking forward to the Biden, Palin debate, something tells me it will make them look both slightly less warm and wonderful looking.

  95. Wayne: Under that logic, criticism over adscam was just because people were afraid of Chretian.

  96. I’m afraid of Chretien. Avril Lavigne has never been the same since she met him. Coincidence?

  97. Steve: So any complaints you had about adscam weren’t really because of adscam but because you feared Chretien’s power with teen-age rock-singers?

  98. No I was so disgusted by the whole thing I left the country :)

  99. Posted earlier:
    “From the same polling Wells looks at (or another poll I saw today somewhere):

    66% of Americans have no opinion on Ms. Palin. And 23% of the 33% who do look upon her favourably.

    She is going to do fine among the white suburban women she was supposed to.”

    NOT this white suburban woman!!!!!! Yuck.

  100. nbg127 now you know how guys felt about Bill Clinton :)

  101. Paul,

    you seem to be confusing my unwillingness to buy into your nuanced leftist approach with a lack of reading comprehension. That you don’t appreciate how I’m “comprehending” your message may have more to do with your myopic leftist world view, than any intellectual shortcomings on my part.

  102. “nuanced leftist approach”
    “myopic leftist world view”

    Yep, kody, Paul was _way_ off base with his insane observation that Palin is only scratching that Baby-Jesus-Loving (and don’t you DARE insinuate that the Baby J was a Community Organizer!) itch. That leftist, commie, pinko, Uncle-Joe loving, coffee-slurpin’ egghead sure whiffed on _that_ one. Moderates of the world are flocking to the banner of conservative Jody Vance. What was that left-wing, criminal-loving, Trudeau worshipping soft swab thinking? With the titanic mountain of problems facing the flatlining and foreclosing US, their borrow-bilions-a-day economy and oil-glugging stealth bombers and nation-building armies, the whole undecided middle has been waiting with baited breath for a fresh face to spout more hot-air about fambly values, elitist black men, abortion, school prayer and other desperately vital flashpoint issues from the Karl Rove playbook.

    Shame on you Paul.

  103. I wonder, kody, are people to the right of you myopic leftists too, or are you using it as an objective term?

  104. Wells, The latest Rasmussen’s say her appeal to the swing voters went right over your head. Palin is one up on Obama and 10 up on Biden and within the polling margin of Obama on experience.

    Media campaigning against Palin 51%

    Favourable Ratings

    Palin 58% (Ind 59%)
    Obama, McCain 57%
    Biden 48%.

    More experienced
    Obama 48 (Ind 45%)
    Palin 44 (Ind 42%)

  105. Joan Tintor

    I thought Newman/Champ were disgraceful yesterday, Newman actually said it was like pass the hot potato. But I can’t say I was surprised because, like Wells points out in a non-specific way, we all know how ‘sophisticated’ they are at the CBC.

  106. I think it’s pretty accepted in American politics that national-level polls are meaningless.

    The way things work is that there are a total of something like 540 “Electoral College” seats, divided among states according to population. If you win a state, you get all the seats from that state. To win, you need to win 270 seats.

    California is the biggest with 55 seats, which looks securely Democrat. The Republicans have Texas’s 34, which is more or less balanced by New York’s 31 for the Dems. Florida has 27 seats & could go either way, so both parties will spend a lot of time there. Illinois is a biggie & is securely Dem. New England together add up to a lot & are mostly Dem.

    With current state-level polls, the Dems are up by 207 to 174 seats with 157 undecided. The GOP will probably carry more states, but the Dems lead in states with large populations (other than Texas). How the votes are distributed is as important as the total count. Expect to see lots of campaigning in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania & Florida, and to a lesser extent, Virginia & North Carolina, because these states will determine the next president.

  107. The majority of the country doesn’t support such an extreme pro-life position as Sarah Palin where there is no exception for cases of rape and incest. Even in conservative South Dakota, the voters overturned the state’s decision to ban all abortion in 2006.

    Sarah Palin’s families absolutely should be off limit to criticism. I feel sorry for Bristol and I think it was not great of Sarah and Todd to throw her into the national spotlight in her current situation. And I think it’s creepy that some on the right talk about how excited her pregnany made them. It gives me the willies thinking about Rush Limbaugh giggling wih elation at the thought of teenagers having sex.

    That said, when the right finally lets the media interview Sarah Palin (which they are not doing right now— why so secretive???) I think she will lose more and more of the moderates and indies. She and McCain have laid forth no policies to help the unemployed, people strugglnig with home foreclosures, people without healthcare, kids who cannot afford college, and others struggling financially in this country due to a DISASTROUS last 8 years under a Bush administration and a Republican led Congress for 6.5 of the 8 years. Even today the news is out that the unemplyment rate has risen. The economy is the number issue for most voters (I guess most of us are just gloomy gus’s).

    McCain has offered no economic relief. Barack’s plan proposes immediate stimulus packages of around $500-$1,000 for the average family that will be paid for by taxing oil companies record-breaking windfall profits.

    As for women- I don’t think they’ll vote for a man who says he’ll overturn Roe v. Wade and voted against the equal pay for equal work act- saying that would mean too many lawsuits.

    Also, as much as (some) people like Sarah Palin, let’s remember who’s on the top of the ticket. And that guy can’t break 45% in the polls yet.

    P.S. Rudy Giuliani may not know what a community organizer is now, but he will soon when community organizers put Obama in the White House!

  108. Obama’s “50 states” claim was that he was more likely than Hilary to pick up states like Colorado and Virginia and that Hilary’s only chance was to carry Ohio.

    Obama will compete for Virginia and North Carolina and the McCain will compete for Pennsylvania but won’t expect flips in a nailbiter. McCain looks very good in Florida and the Western red states will be like home for Palin.

    In the end this may just come down to which mid west and rust belt states can be flipped either way. The Dems might have been better off with Hilary in those states.

    Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

  109. After seeing the CNN report on Palin’s lies and semi-truths I wonder if she is more of a liability to McCain rather than a plus to the campaign.

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