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Ted Kennedy, 1932-2009

The youngest Kennedy was an inspiring orator like his brothers


 


 

Ted Kennedy, 1932-2009

  1. David Olive wrote in his Star blog last week that perhaps it will take the death of a great legislator to end the stalemate…well – if that's what it takes – lets hope Senator Kennedy will be whooping it up sitting on some cloud fairly soon!

  2. Finally, Mary Jo gets to ask him a few questions…

    • For all of his great legislative and humanitarian achievements and that fact that today is a day to mourne the life and legacy of Ted Kennedy it remains that his actions and involvement in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne at Chappaquiddick will remain as a black mark against him.

    • His history shows that a man can change and grow.

      We remain hopeful for you, myl.

      • A man of privilege walks away from heinous conduct, and gets away with it. That thought, and a spare thought for the Kopechne family, entered my head every time that man appeared on the scene. If others want to "change" and "grow" away from that memory, well, that's up to them.

  3. "…Senator Kennedy will be whooping it up sitting on some cloud fairly soon…"

    God is nothing if not merciful, and assessing the state of a man's soul is a fool's game, but I doubt that this man's moral legacy will result in his being perched on any clouds any time soon. If he's lucky, he'll be toiling in purgatory for a good while, at best.

    • Will he be working in Santa's toyshop? Or am I getting my myths mixed up?

    • "assessing the state of a man's soul is a fool's game"

      …um, then why did you do it?

    • jarrid, there's a time and place…this isn't it.

  4. Oh the unforgiving – we could list all those Rep presidents that had affairs and questionble goings on….he redeemed himself folks.

    • He redeemed himself? He killed someone and was a fat cat in Washington. What exactly did he do to 'redeem' himself?

      • Stay classy.

      • Obviously, you only pay attention to what you want to and the negatives – he had over "500" bills passed through the House – equal rights, Civil Rights bill – we could go on. He was also instrumental in the peace between Britain and Ireland.

        Ya, he was a bad boy during the years he was an alcoholic but he changed that didn't he.

        Oh hell, just stay as classy as you are.

  5. OT, but important, so I pass this on to BC readers:

    A new Crop poll out in Quebec, and this might cause the Libs to pause:

    Libs down 5% points from the June Crop poll from 35% down to 30%.

    Meanwhile the Conservatives are up 4% in Quebec. The Bloc remains relatively unchanged at 31%.

    The Liberals have 14 seats in Quebec. In 2004 with 34% of the vote they got 21 seats there.

    How the Liberals can talk about getting 30 seats in Quebec is beyond me. Must be new maths. Crop vice-president Claude Gauthier in today's La Presse says with those numbers the Liberals wouldn't get much more than the 14 they already hold.

    Somehow I think Iggy is inching back to cold feet terrritory.

    • WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • I know, I know, down 5 points in just two months. I had the same reaction.

        • Jarrid, I used to have a mixture of contempt and confusion for your outrageous comments. Now it is just pity.

          Goodbye.

    • OT , and unnecessary in this thread, Jarrid.

      Can any of you conservative commentators dredge up some class from time to time, or are you simply incapable of it?

    • Why, just yesterday, Scott Tribe thought it was swell to post the latest Harris-Decima poll on an ITQ thread, presumably because it had the Liberals ahead in the polls, albeit by one meagre percentage point.

      Today Scott Tribe expresses dismay that someone else does the same and posts poll results.

      Why the discrepancy? Need I ask? This one shows the Liberals in a free fall in Quebec – and accordingly causes despair and dismay in Liberal partisan ranks and leaves them in a peevish and ornery mood.

      Don't shoot the messenger Scott.

      • Was it a memorium thread for a recently deceased politician?

        Honestly, you're just gross at this point. If I didn't know better I would suspect you were actually a Liberal troll trying to make Conservatives look bad.

      • Do you have ADD? The topic is Kennedy and I'm sure the CROP poll issue will come up via Kady, Wells or someone.

        You keep calling Liberals partisans – got a mirror?

  6. Just when I think some commenters aren't so bad after all, they plumb new depths.

    Classy everybody.

  7. If he had been a prominent vociferous British politician (or Canadian one, for that matter) in favour of public health care, the right wing nuts would be pointing out the flaws of a publicly-funded system that couldn't keep the guy alive.

  8. A giant in American history and politics. RIP.

  9. They don't make them as big as Teddy anymore. Simply irreplaceable. RIP

  10. RIP Ted. Truly the end of an era. There's now only one US Senator left who experienced the Senate during the transformative mid-1960s: Robert Byrd, the 91 year old Senator from West Virginia, who has been a Senator since 1959.

    • You have to hand it to the good people of Massachusetts. They knew they had a great man on their hands in Ted Kennedy and they never doubted they should keep him. There's a lot to be said for that aspect of the US system / mentality.

      • I like that aspect of the US system, too. The political longevity of many US Senators and Congressmen provides an institutional memory that is sorely lacking in Canadian federal politics today. How many of our elected Parliamentarians were around in the 1980's, let alone the 1970's and 1960's? Maybe Parliament would be more civilized if we had more old, experienced fogeys, and fewer boomers and Gen. X-ers.

        • Kennedy reminds me of a Napoleonic marshal, a guy who was an accountant before the Revolution, got elevated to a colonelcy by family connections in 1793, had his ups and downs, and by the time the wars were coming to an end he had done nothing else but soldiering — an accidental career, but a job he was by then incredibly good at. There is a lot to be said for aristocracy when it is infused with ancient Roman public spirit.

        • That is an interesting point. Do you believe that the Senate in Canada is still keeping with that spirit of institutional memory? I am just curious, but it is something I would like to have as a major aspect of our Parliament. However, we energetically vote out people searching for renewal but ironically in terms of composition and dynamic, we get the same type of Parliament, maintain the status quo. The only recent, obvious example of a person who stayed in politics for a long time in Parliament would have to be Chretien. Despite his flaws, one cannot deny his abilities as a politician. His living through many different decades (I still have a newspaper clipping from the sixties which showed him along with other new MPs as a "young" Parliamentarian) shaped his approach to politics. I think the problem is that he was decent strategist even Machiavellian at times, and that aspect became an association with his longstanding experience.

          "Maybe Parliament would be more civilized if we had more old, experienced fogeys, and fewer boomers and Gen. X-ers."

          I would so as well, but I keep on thinking that one of the raison d'êtres of the Reform Party was that Parliament was in fact inert and corrupt due to the longstanding political operatives. My impression is that this sentiment may have transformed slightly but has now permeated into general public thought, and the promoters were most likely vindicated with Adscam. In this world, political longevity seems to be a liability as it is hardly associated with being a respected statesman, but rather, it is associated with one's own tactical abilities.

          To Jack Mitchell:

          I always enjoy your historical references! You are a treasure trove of knowledge. Makes me want to dive into my grandfather's old library again. I just need to shake off unnecessary time wasters like checking Facbook more than once a day.

  11. Comments appear, then disappear, and then sometimes re-appear hours later.

    Intense, ain't it.

    • Try sorting by "Last Activity" to get around this very annoying ID bug. It sometimes works.

      • Thanks. But not really worth the trouble.

  12. Nice to see some American Conservatives such as John McCain have offered heartfelt, sincere tributes.
    Also world leaders from various political parties.
    I was overwhelmed when heard the touching sincerity of Stephen Harper's statement. A real class act as usual.