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The oldest young man


 

Rick Mercer celebrates Pierre Poilievre.


 

The oldest young man

  1. If Harper gets a majority, should we measure the lifespan of the CBC in years, as I once thought (3 or 4), or is it down to months, weeks, or even days?

    • But at least Mercer's one of the guy's who'll be able to find work elsewhere in Canada, unlike most of the deadweight over there.

      • Who would you nominate for top 3 CBC deadweights?

  2. That was a classic.

    The fact that, like his boss Stonewall Steve, he's never had a real job but he feels he has the authority to lambast others the way he does for being lazy or seeking benefits, is one of the great absurdities of this government.

  3. There are lots of reasons to dislike/mock Pierre Polievre, but for his age?

    Meh.

    • Yeah, that's what it was about…

  4. LOL Mercer's a national treasure. Life time career politicians presuming to tell canadians how to live…gag! "That little s—"!!

  5. There are many reasons to dislike Pierre Poilevre!

  6. It's worth noting that Poilievre won't qualify for a full pension until July 2010, when he's achieved 6 years of contributions. Mercer is a bit early with this piece, but if we can ignore the relatively short time gap between here and there, it probably doesn't detract from his point.

  7. Not to quibble, but barring Poilievre's actually pulling off the mask and revealing . . . well, barring that, he'd qualify in 2010 anyway, election or no election: he has a 13 000 vote margin in Nepean.

    • And the pension doesn't actually start paying out until he reachs age 55 in any case.

      So… there's that, eh?

    • It doesn't help when the Liberals offer us a man who lost local Conservative riding nominations to PP in 2004 and John Baird in 2006, and then suddenly "sees the light" on Harper and becomes a Liberal. There's a reason why the Ottawa Citizen said the Green candidate was the best choice for Nepean-Carleton and the NDP candidate would be good too, while the others were dangerously unqualified.

  8. Maybe you should watch the video again.

  9. I like Pierre and have absolutely no doubt that a few years from now we will be seeing him in higher and higher profiled postions. I like watching the young bucks travel up the ladder and pay their dues. I remember when young Chretien was Pierre's attack dog and everyone was writing him off and putting the toe tags on him and lo and behold look where he ended up :) – this young kid will surprise a lot of people out there through the next few years.

    • {Shudder}

  10. Mercer has always been a funny guy, and I know he`s trying to get a not so subtle message out there that MP`s pensions are way out of whack with the rest of us. But the only attempt by a political party to amend the unfair MP pension plan that MP`s gave themselves was in 1993 when the Reform Party was seeking support from other parties and Canadians in general to force the majority Liberals to change this pension plan so it was more in line with others.
    No help was received—–from politicians, from most of the media nor from a twenty-something comedian named Mercer.

  11. Well, if that isn't motivation for younger people to get into politics I don't know what is.

    Freedom 31…..I'm so jealous!

  12. Nor from the Reform. They were pretty quick to accept their gold-plated pensions without any further comment or protestation, including now when they could be putting their money where their mouths are and, what was it Flaherty said, tighten their own belts when they are asking Canadians to tighten theirs.

  13. I'm sure Mercer would have had no reason to go after Poillievre if it hadn't been for the little sh*t's pronouncements about work and working people.

    Seriously, Conservatives are brain-dead.

  14. Poilievre is the worst kind of politician and I have a hard time taking anything he says seriously anymore following his odious statements about natives (the day Harper apologized for residential schools abuse in Parliament) and Canadians on EI, among an array of other bone-headed comments.

    He's representative of our society's lowest common denominator and we should be ashamed he is a Parliamentarian.

  15. This is Mercer at his acerbic best. Just if more of his program was made of pieces of this satiric calibre….

  16. Well Mercer should look at Perrin Beatty…..man that guy has full cab min pension, tons of years of service, a few crown corp pensions as well.

    But perhaps he could have picked a better target, liek one of the Bloc Mp's, you know the ones that want to split the country…yet i am sure they would squeal lik eyour favourite farm animal if you suggested that their federal pension be removed.

  17. Actually, you are wrong, there was widespread support in the Reform Party for changing the lucrative MP pension plan. However narrow minds like yours would not stand behind the changes needed. The 50 Reform members could not force the 250 other members to change. So they had to drop the effort in order that there would be a level playing field in the future.

    So now you have things as they always were—–but, I would suggest that you and Mercer should encourage the 70 Liberal MP`s to attempt to reform the pension plan now—-do you think that will happen ?

  18. So if PP were to be defeated after he reaches this milestone, would it mean he starts to collect a pension? I don't think so. He would still have to wait until he reached a certain age, wouldn't he? And if he were defeated at such a young age and after only 6 +/- yrs, the "full" pension wouldn't be that high 20-odd years from now, would it? So it's not like he could take out a loan against that pension to live on in the meantime, would it? So while it's fun to pile on and everything, a little perspective might be in order.

  19. Seriously ?—-40 % of Canadians—-brain-dead ?

  20. "a level playing field"? What? So you're seriously contending that one party refusing its pensions would somehow make the playing field not level? What the hell playing field are you talking about?

    What it was was an expedient excuse to ignore their previous position when they realized they weren't just talking about other people's money.

  21. Seems to me that – like unelected senators, senate reform, gun registry, equal marriage, Public Appointments Commission, accountability – the opposition to pensions was just for show.

    Certainly, Harper has all the ability now to introduce some changes, no?

  22. Well, not all of them.

    (Though I'm really not sure where you get the 40% of Canadians are Conservative. )

  23. Correct me if I am wrong but the Reform MPs kept their pensions, didn't they?

  24. Chretien had a career in law before heading into politics, and was recruited by one of the most ethical politicians Canada has ever seen in Lester B. You may like Pierre but that says more about you than you care to admit. And some day it may be held against you in a court of law…

  25. Don't tell this to the guy who has lost his job and is trying to feed his family, especially when he realizes that PP was Harper's front man for stifling EI reforms.

  26. Sort of like the premise that they were all against bribing people with their own money when they were in opposition and had to resort using their own money and own stash of tapes to make trumped up charges. Now in gov't, when not using old examples of bad decisionmaking and poor ethics in defence of their current actions, they're doing the McDonalds slogan (Lovin' It) when it comes to do just what they decried before.
    Nothing is stopping them from tabling a pension reform bill now, either. Other than likely prorogation #3 and their own addiction to misusing your's and my money…

  27. Pierre Poilievre's comments about natives is why I could never vote Conservative – race-baiting and appeals to our baser instincts are odious and should have no place in public life.

    How he can look himself in the mirror and not feel ashamed is a mystery to me.

  28. I saw the show last night. If it wasn't for that skit I would have been generally disappointed with the show.

  29. Don't tell that guy what? I'm not trying to gloss over anything, but it isn't like PP gets booted by the electors in his riding and he retires at 31 1/2 to a "full" pension. His pension, when it comes, will be prorated for a 6 year career. I'm simply trying for some perspective.

  30. I suppose it would have been difficult to attract good candidates to oppose the Libs at that time if they knew that only libs would be eligible for pension—–especially since the Libs had a unique way of paying for election expenses then called Adscam—–you know the fraud scheme.

  31. Senate reform cannot be acheived as long as there is a majority of Libs in the Senate but change is a good thing—-do not be afraid.

    • Senate reform cannot be achieved without opening up the Constitution. This, regardless of how many Libs are in the Senate.

  32. When the CPC attempted to eliminate the vote subsidy last fall it set forth a panic amongst the entitled Libs. It is very difficult for Libs to even think about giving up the perks they gave themselves, however, it would be an interesting move to see them initate pension reform to see how the CPC would react. Somehow I don1t think it will happen.

  33. Career politicians are overwhelmingly noxious.

  34. It does not matter what party Poilievre's a member of it's obscene that anyone should be getting a full pension with benefits after a few years of work when many senior citizens who have worked for 35-40 years or more either have no pensions or are getting their pensions cut. These same senior citizens are the ones who paid taxes for 35-40 years to give free-loaders like Poilievre a golden future. Is this Canada or some 3rd world country?

  35. So you're saying that they couldn't attract any good candidates to their party based on their ideas?

    Hm. I might have to agree with you there.

  36. Let the Conservatives put forward legislation that eliminates the tax-credit for donating to a political party, as that costs our gov't far more than the per-vote subsidy.