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What we have here is a failure to communicate


 

Before departing the scene, Gordon Landon helpfully clarifies what you thought he was saying when you thought you heard him say there was something partisan about the way federal funding was distributed.

“The facts on this matter are however, quite clear,” Mr. Landon added. “The Town of Markham applied for financial stimulus funds for 14 projects, and each of those 14 projects were approved for joint federal and provincial stimulus support. The remarks I made last week were critical of the inadequate representation, and lack of personal action, received by Markham-Unionville from the Liberal MP in this riding, and not of the federal government.”

So that’s the official press release. In a separate interview, he appears to contradict a previous account of his own account and says he was not asked to step aside, but repeats his assertion that PMO control was the primary motivating force for his exit.


 

What we have here is a failure to communicate

  1. Whenever a politican of any stripe uses the phrase "the facts of the matter" it is an excellent signal to all that the facts don't matter and/or will not be provided.

    • The facts are what matter here. Markham applied for 14 and got 14. I would suggest that Landon had no idea of what the heck he was talking about when he said what he said. I think it is pretty commonly understood that if you are a member of the party in power, whatever party it is, you as a representative will have better access to the ear of whomever they need to talk to, either in cabinet, caucus members or deputy ministers, and can thus get results on whatever the issue may be, which may have dollars attached or not. Not all issues are solved by throwing money at the problem.

      • When were they approved?

        • did a quick google search and found announcements for Markham starting in at least April. Everything from RiNC projects, vetrans, skills development, etc.

          • So there were no unapproved projects prior to a week or two ago?

          • again, I can't tell you that.

          • OK. It just seems odd that such contradictions between Landon Past, Baird and Landon Present could be possible. Was Landon on some sort of wild bender and just for kicks stated on the record contrary opinions to anyone who'd listen? Now he's come to his senses and has seen the light? Praise be.

      • " I think it is pretty commonly understood that if you are a member of the party in power, whatever party it is, you as a representative will have better access to the ear of whomever they need to talk to, either in cabinet, caucus members or deputy ministers,"

        Um, you miss the whole freakin' point, don't you.

        The point is, one shouldn't have to bend the ear of a cabinet minister, caucus member, or deputy minister in order to have equal and fair access or consideration under a government program.

        • not missing the point at all. Just saying the way it is…not if it is right or wrong. Do you really think that those on the opposing side of Dear Mayor Miller get the same time of day as those on his side? Think again.

          • Miller punished neighbourhoods that didn't vote for him? Do you have any proof to back that up?

          • Yes – they missed my leaf/yard waste bag two weeks ago. Not to mention the poor circulation desk at my local library branch. The recriminations are overwhelming. Our outdoor ice rink melted a full week before the one in Riverdale.

  2. The Body Snatchers got to him. :(

  3. Those Pod People got to him. :(

  4. Another journalistic travesty, Wherry. And I say this knowing full well that I can expect a scolding from one of your colleagues for what will be interpreted as a baseless personal attack.

    • It may just be my in-Wherry-we-trust nature, but I don't see the travesty in this one.

  5. "Representation???"

    On a funding request???

    There's a name for that.

    Conservative MPs providing most effective level of political interference is an excuse how, exactly?

  6. What a shame. This seems like the kind of guy we need more of. I wonder if the first ("they kicked me out") or this latest ("I couldn't work under that") is the truth, or if it's somewhere in between ("they said here's the way it has to be or you're not our candidate, I said I couldn't work under that")

  7. "Representation???"

    On a funding request???

    There's a name for that.

    Conservative MPs providing most effective level of political interference is an excuse how, exactly? Exactly how for down the public service food chain do MP's have to get before someone in the press remembers their not supposed to be doing it?

  8. Rather coincidental that he says this after Baird says it in the House isn't it.

    I saw the part of the TV tape………..he said what he said no matter how hard he tries to deny it.

  9. This is getting ridiculous. When Harper became PM he cancelled the funding for this project because he doesn't consider high level R&D to be very important to the economy. Not because the riding voted Liberal.
    Pull resources from the ground and sell them. That's the economy Harper grew up with and that's the economy he would like to maintain.
    You can debate the merits of that strategy, but it's obviously not a Liberal/Tory held riding issue.

  10. OK. It just seems odd that such contradictions between Landon Past, Baird, and Landon Present could be. Was Landon on some sort of wild bender and stated contrary opinions to anyone who'd listen? Now he's come to his senses and has seen the light? Praise be.

  11. OK. It just seems odd that such contradictions between Landon Past, Baird, and Landon Present could be possible. Was Landon on some sort of wild bender and stated contrary opinions to anyone who'd listen? Now he's come to his senses and has seen the light? Praise be.

    • I think he was talking out of his hat. Most candidates have no idea what various towns or counties have or have not applied for, or where the applications are in the process, as they are not privy to that information…unless they have a very good relationship with the mayors, councils, operating officer's etc. From past experience, trying to get any information out of any of the 'crats on the federal side is akin to pulling teeth and usually is behing FOI barriers.

      • I think this guy was a member of council, Moose. Not sure how long ago, but I got the impression (but it was by the media, so I could be wrong) he really would know about the projects.

  12. OK. It just seems odd that such contradictions between Landon Past, Baird and Landon Present could be possible. Was Landon on some sort of wild bender and stated contrary opinions to anyone who'd listen? Now he's come to his senses and has seen the light? Praise be.

  13. Jenn_ is right. From Wikipedia's 'York Regional Council' page:

    Markham

    * Mayor Frank Scarpitti (2006-present)
    * Jim Jones
    * Jack Heath
    * vacant- following the death of Tony Wong (2006-2009)
    * Gordon Landon

  14. Is York regional council the same as the City Council out there?

    • Huh. ChrisinKW and I would have the same perspective, but for us members of Regional council include members of the various city councils, plus there would be a lot of talking back and forth, I'm pretty sure. But maybe York is different. And, while I have no knowledge of the particular project Landon is so interested in, it is possible the regional council would have had a role.

      • That could very well be. I would think that taht there should be a sharing of information, though I would be very surprised if a regional councilor as you describe it would know all of what is being applied for. I know that here in BC, usually the left hand has no idea what the right is doing. Don't know where Landon lives, but perhaps his attention was elsewhere.

  15. Outrageous!

  16. Come on, everyone knows MP's don't speak the same language(s) as the rest of us. That's why we so often hear exactly the opposite of what they were actually saying.