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Woodward & Bernstein & Alghabra


 

Former Liberal MPs are the new investigative reporters. Apparently.

Ontario was allocated about $1.1 billion in Infrastructure Stimulus Fund money, translating to about $90 for each Ontarian (according to the 2006 census). Mississauga was assigned $46 million (to be matched by the province of Ontario and the city of Mississauga). According to the 2006 census, it means that Mississauga only received $69 per person. The city of Mississauga received 23% less than the provincial average.

It gets worse.  Looking at some cities that are represented by Conservative MPs, the numbers are even more disturbing.  For example, Barrie received $129 per person, Niagara Falls received $200 per person, Cambridge received $170 per person, and Oakville received $279 per person.


 

Woodward & Bernstein & Alghabra

  1. Ontario still has $600 million of its share of the stimulus fund to be announced by the federal government

    So that Mississauga per-person number could go up if some of the remaining funds are directed towards non-Tory ridings.

    Or that number could go down. We'll have to wait and see. Considering the amount of heat the Tories have been getting lately, I expect the remaining 600M$ to go towards Liberal/NDP ridings.

  2. Thank goodness someone is.. lord knows if we waited for the actual media to report substance we'd still think Chretien was in power.

  3. This line of argument is somewhat weakened by the fact that the provincial Liberal government presumably also had a say in where the funds would be distributed. Each level of government, according to this, pays for one third of the project.

    If this is truly an unfair state for affairs, shouldn't the provincial and underfunded municipalities be raising the alarm, rather than parliamentary partisans?

    • No, why would they raise an alarm?, cities often have more than one riding and the riding by province are not aligned by the same boundaries as the Federal ones. Add to that that a mayor of the city doesn't know what other cities are getting, only what he has gotten (no comparative in other words)….in short, why would they notice if they don't have the 50 thousand foot view?

      Too bad that that 2 million dollar action plan website wasn't delivered as promised with all the detail it was supposed to have…..then maybe I could see your point.

    • Many apply. Only the vaunted few are chosen. And who is this mystical force who has the final say in approval of project applications?

    • Many apply. Only the select few are chosen. And who is this mystical force who has the final say in approval of project applications?

    • Many apply. Only a select few are chosen. And who is this mystical force who has the final say in approval of project applications?

    • Many apply. Only a select few are chosen. And who is this mystical force with the final say in project approval?

  4. If it were true…Missisauga is represented by a Conservative. So how does this compute?

  5. Shh, you'll jinx the New Narrative.

  6. You do realize that Mississauga constitutes more than one riding (six, in fact), only one of which is presented by a Conservative.

    • Now there is the 1st problem amongst many…..Is it that Mr Alghabra is saying that the Conservative who occupies the seat he formerly warmed isnt doing enough? Or that rest of Missisauga is being penalized because the others are Liberals.

      This of course ignores the fact the projects had to be applied for by the municipalities and provincial government. Don't see that mentioned in Mr Alghabara's EXCLUSIVE report.

  7. Is it only me or is the smell of desparation by the LPC permeating every announcement they make most especially the self righteous pseudo-scandal of the day variety. It looks weak – someone should talk with Kinsella as it doesn't look good and if it keeps going like this will only get worse – stick to a real gameplan and drop the giotcha hunt then offer real alternatives and maybe the party might make some headway but as it stands it look so weak!

  8. Apparently some still do

    http://jeanchretien.libertyca.net/html/0007.html

    "OTTAWA; QUEBEC CITY – Jean Chretien, the Prime Minister, yesterday said his government had nothing to apologize for in seeking to reap maximum partisan political benefit from disbursing $1-billion worth of federal job grants across Canada each year.

    He had always made sure since taking power in October, 1993, that voters were left in no doubt that it was his Liberals who were distributing such grants, he said.

    "Listen," he added, "we are the government … I don't see why we can't try to get credit for what we do. I hope we do so. There is nothing to be ashamed in that."

    • Nice quote….I see it used a lot lately, funny that

      Problem is? this is a billion dollars that was distributed that the Liberals were trying to make sure they got credit for….cheap, yes……but at the end of the day, no one is saying that the billion dollars was improperly given to given to Liberal friendly projects or ridings…….just that they were trying to get as much mileage as they could with it.

      Also, Chretien was 2 Prime Ministers ago now …….

  9. Now there is the 1st problem amongst many…..Is it that Mr Alghabra is saying that the Conservative who occupy's the seat he formerly warmed isnt doing enough? Or that rest of Missisauga is being penalized because the others are Liberals.

    This of course ignores the fact the projects had to be applied for by the municipalities and provincial government. Don't see that mentioned in Mr Alghabara's EXCLUSIVE report.

  10. Aaron, when the media (like say… you) uncritically accepts statements from partisan politicians, then perhaps yes, I suppose former MP's are our Bernstein's and Woodwards…

    Well except that the data is sketchy. When I had checked in, Kennedy's data included no projects for Toronto and almost none for Vancouver and Montreal. This was because (according to Kennedy's staff) those announcements were made after they collected data. There were also virtually none for Quebec (which Kennedy's staff said was because the government website had incomplete data).

    • Gosh, if only someone had made better data available.

    • Gosh, if only someone had made the data available.

    • Ditto

  11. Minor counter to meme post but in Missisagua East Coolsville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound redudcion wall along a part of <a href="http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mississauga,+ON&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=48.030958,114.169922&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mississauga,+Peel+Regional+Municipality,+Ontario&ll=43.578942,-79.623934&spn=0.000818,0.001742&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=43.579011,-79.624052&panoid=NoQN4FQzXIAF1kAf3mmcrA&cbp=12,175.09,,0,9.85"> Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things.

  12. Minor counter to meme post but in Missisagua East Coolsville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound redudcion wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things.

  13. Minor counter to meme post but in Missisagua East Coolsville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound reduction wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things.

  14. Minor counter to meme post but in Missisagua East Cooksville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound reduction wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things.

  15. Minor counter to meme post but in Mississagua East Cooksville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound reduction wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things.

  16. Minor counter to meme post but in Mississagua East Cooksville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action Plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound reduction wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things. Mind you that since that streetview image was taken the entire length of Confederation Parkway has been repaved and improved over the summer. I did not see any Action Plan signs when that was going on and the sign at the location on the above street view only appeared in the past few weeks.

  17. Minor counter to meme post but in Mississagua East Cooksville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound reduction wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things. Mind you that since that streetview image was taken the entire length of Confederation Parkway has been repaved and improved over the summer. I did not see any Action Plan signs when that was going on and the sign at the location on the above street view only appeared in the past few weeks.

  18. Minor counter to meme post but in Mississagua East Cooksville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action Plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound reduction wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things. Mind you that since that streetview image was taken the entire length of Confederation Parkway has been repaved and improved over the summer. I did not see any Action Plan signs when that was going on and the sign at the location on the above street view only appeared in the past few weeks. The sound reduction wall in question has one section knocked down by an auto accident (covered in wood) and some of the other bricks have cracks but otherwise it is still serviceable.

  19. Minor counter-to-meme post but in Mississagua East Cooksville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action Plan stating that they are paying for the replacement (1/3?) of a sound reduction wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things. Mind you that since that streetview image was taken the entire length of Confederation Parkway has been repaved and improved over the summer. I did not see any Action Plan signs when that was going on and the sign at the location on the above street view only appeared in the past few weeks. The sound reduction wall in question has one section knocked down by an auto accident (covered in wood) and some of the other bricks have cracks but otherwise it is still serviceable.

  20. Minor counter-to-meme post but in Mississagua East Cooksville (Lib Albina Guarnieri MP) there is a sign from the Action Plan stating that they are paying (1/3?) for the replacement of a sound reduction wall along a part of Confederation Parkway. Probably peanuts in the scheme of things. Mind you that since that streetview image was taken the entire length of Confederation Parkway has been repaved and improved over the summer. I did not see any Action Plan signs when that was going on and the sign at the location on the above street view only appeared in the past few weeks. The sound reduction wall in question has one section knocked down by an auto accident (covered in wood) and some of the other bricks have cracks but otherwise it is still serviceable.

    • Probably another case of taking credit for something already completed, a la federal building in Charlottetown that was funded by the Liberal government 6 years ago and opened in 2006.

    • Perhaps another case of taking credit for something already completed, a la federal building in Charlottetown that was funded by the Liberal government 6 years ago and opened in 2006.

  21. Less Alghabra, and more Funct[h]ions and Relat[h]ions.

  22. There is some huge cherry-picking going on.

    Firstly, it is worth noting that Omar is only looking at a subsection of the stimulus budget. For instance, Ontario is getting 3 billion in additional gas tax money for municipalities, which is how a lot of the infrastructure is being funded. Already you don't have a representative sample if you are only looking at the 1.1 billion ISF. Disproportionately those kinds of projects are going to be in rural areas that don't have the tax base to improve infrastructure solely with gas tax money.

    Secondly, there are other specific programs that benefit Mississauga disproportionately. For instance fully 20% of the recreation infrastructure fund is being spent in Mississauga. The GO trains (which Mississaugans use heavily) are getting 213 million.

    I really wish the Tories would let Kevin Page do his job. If they did, they could finally discredit these kinds of accusations.

    • In the vacuum of actual data, how would you go about tracking this?

    • In a vacuum of actual data, how would you go about tracking this?

  23. Most of us agree: Let Kevin Page do his job

    • Moreover, it is in their ideological interest. If Harper really is a fiscal conservative (and I am getting my doubts), he would want projects to be costed accurately. Look at how CBO reports constantly undermine Obama (like the one that suggested the stimulus would lead to lower economic growth after a short-term boost, or its skepticism about his administration's unemployment projections – the ones that said with the stimulus US unemployment would peak a bit above 8%), or at least prevent him from taking more expensive routes.

      Here are Obama's numbers…
      http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/.a/6a00d834515c236

      FYI as of September the BLS has unemployment at 9.8%, and economic growth still hasn't bottomed out (plus unemployment is a lagging indicator). Intrade has an unemployment rate of 10% or higher at about a 70% chance of occurring.

  24. This money is being distributed in order to create employment for people who have lost their jobs in the recession.
    It is not being distributed according to need, but according to political party affiliation.
    Nice work defending that.

  25. Dividing it by a dollar per person amount is the basest form of the very politicking the Liberals are supposedly criticizing, as if "what's in it for me?" is the best we are capable of as a society.

    Mabye it's being unfairly distributed, but surely we're not all going to get out our abacuses and calculate how much should be spent on our block are we?

    I'm able, as a voter and a human, to understand that some other project in some other province, some other people might need infrastructure spending more than I do. It's the collection of our 90 bucks each into a strategic project, perhaps all the way across town, that has the potential to generate social and economic benefit for all of us, not this clamouring for goodies.

    Obviously Alghabra has the same value system as the logoist Conservatives. They agree that it's about divvying up the loot. Disgusting.

    • I tend to believe that infrastructure spending should be allotted based on need. And while it's possible that the need is concentrated more in what also happen to be Tory ridings than Liberal or NDP ridings, I have a hard time believing it really is a legitimate 80-20 split.

      This, combined with the party putting its logo on government cheques – I don't care who did it first, it's still wrong – means something smells.

    • In fairness, most want fairness. If some other region needs the cashola more, the distribution model should be plain to see. It's not. Neither is the data. Cue the speculation.

  26. And there is no indication that current government has been improperly distributing the stimulus money. You need to show that there were projects that were denied to Liberal ridings. To date I havent seen anythign like that. As well, how do you imporperly distribute money when you aren't approving the suppliers or initiating the projects. This is missing from the story as well.

    So we are left with very political "credit taking" exercise. None of which justifies putting party logos on cheques, this is wrong, small cheap potatoes, but still wrong. As for why Chretien, well there hasnt been a Liberal leader of consequence since him. So its the best comparison. I also point to Spectors column a couple of days who points to MacCauley and LeBlanc as engaging improper pressure on ACOA to approve Liberal friendly projects. Both of these men are currently MP's. It's a bit rich…..so for them to have any credibility in their outrage some constructive suggestions would be in order.

    If it is all "just politics" then claiming credit is fine and so is faux outrage. As for why Chretien, he is the last Liberal leader of any significance.

  27. "riding by province are not aligned by the same boundaries as the Federal ones"

    They are in Ontario

  28. The investigative journalism here consists of reading the report prepared by Gerald Kennedy. Aaron, your standards for journalism are pretty low if this is getting you excited. There are commenters on this board who meet this standard.

    The actual content of Kennedy's report seems a bit less than devastating, if you actually read through it. In Ontario, the most successful riding, judged by ISF funding announced is represented by the New Democrats. Of the top five, only two have Conservative MPs.

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