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Votes cast at U of Guelph valid

Conservatives applaud Elections Canada’s decision ‘not to disenfranchise University of Guelph students’


Elections Canada has ruled that the votes cast by nearly 700 students at the University of Guelph Wednesday are valid, after the Conservative Party demanded for the votes to be tossed out.

The Guelph Mercury reported Conservatives claimed that Elections Canada had not sanctioned the polling station, there was partisan campaign material too close to the ballot boxes, and that scrutineers from each party were not monitoring the vote in a letter sent to the Office of the Chief Electoral Officer.

However, a press release issued by Election Canada Friday afternoon states that “all information at our disposal indicates that the votes were cast in a manner that respects the Canada Elections Act and are valid.”

The statement goes on to explain that a “well intentioned” returning officer took the initiative to create a special ballot at the university to encourage students to vote. When Elections Canada became aware of this, they instructed the returning officer “not to engage in any further activities of a similar nature.”

“While the initiative at the University of Guelph was not pre-authorized by the Chief Electoral Officer, the Canada Elections Act provides that electors may apply for and vote by special ballot,” the statement explains.

“A special ballot coordinator, appointed by the local returning officer, oversaw the activities at the University of Guelph.”

In response to the ruling, the Conservative Party released a statement stating that they “applaud the decision not to disenfranchise University of Guelph students because of errors by the local Returning Officer. These student voters should not suffer because of mistakes by the local election officials.”

A spokesperson for Elections Canada told the Guelph Mercury that special ballots had been held on campus for the past two federal elections without any issues.

Elections Canada has also asked that all returning officers stop setting up such polls at universities.


Votes cast at U of Guelph valid

  1. Obviously it was shut down by the Conservatives to prevent a harmful precedent from being set. First you allow students at one campus convenience in voting, and before long other campuses will be clamoring for it,and then other groups like native peoples will be asking for special polls to be set up to make it easier for them to vote. Before too long, voter participation will be up, and god knows that’s every Tory’s worst nightmare. If you make it too easy for riffraff like students and aboriginals to vote,they will actually (shudder) vote. And they won’t vote Tory.

  2. Why Conservatives Will Always Vote Conservative.

    (Adorno, Frenkel-Brunswik, Levinson, & Sanford, 1950)

    “Authoritarianism…happens when the followers submit too much to the leaders, trust them too much, and give them too much leeway to do whatever they want–which often is something undemocratic, tyrannical and brutal.” (Altemeyer, 2006, p. 2)

    The Authoritarian Personality
    An Authoritarian is “someone who, because of his personality, submits by leaps and bows to his authorities.” (p. 8)
    “Authoritarian followers usually support the established authorities in their society, such as government officials and traditional religious leaders. Such people have historically been the “proper” authorities in life, the time-honored, entitled, customary leaders, and that means a lot to most authoritarians.” (p. 9)

    Psychologically these followers have personalities featuring:
    1. a high degree of submission to the established, legitimate authorities in their society;
    2. high levels of aggression in the name of their authorities; and
    3. a high level of conventionalism (believing that everybody should have to follow the norms and customs that your authorities have decreed ).(Altemeyer, 1981, 1988, 2006)

    High authoritarians are extremely self-righteous individuals who maintain a strong acceptance of traditional (i.e. Religious) values and norms, possess a general willingness to submit to legitimate authority, and display a general tendency to aggress against others (especially those who threaten their conventional values and norms). They see their own aggressive behaviour as righteous rather than hurtful. (Haddock, Zanna, & Esses, 1993)

    Authoritarians believe in traditional gender roles, racial prejudice, negative attitudes toward homosexuals, conservative (fundamental or orthodox) religious values, and are low on openness to experience.

    They Are Also Extra-Punitive Toward Law Breakers

    *Assign longer jail times for any law breaker (no matter how small the crime)

    *They think the crimes are more serious than most people do, and they find “common criminals”
    to be highly disgusting and repulsive – it makes them feel glad to be able to punish a perpetrator

    *But they go easy on authorities who commit crimes

    • And we thought Michael Ignatieff was a pompous snot.

  3. This applies to all political sides, cultures, and religions. It is about a personality type, like Type A personality. An authoritarian personality allows and excuses the behaviours of extreme elements within the groups that they identify with. This is also one of the reasons why people still voted liberal after the adscam scandal. The point is that some people will not change their positions, not even in the face of mounting evidence that clearly illustrate the bad behaviours of their leaders.

    This includes me as well.

  4. Traditional conservatism has nearly been destroyed by authoritarianism…I want my real conservative party back.

  5. So we can vote where ever and whenever???? There should not have been a ballot box there till election day or the preset early ballot. This is pathetic.

    • If you take a look at the declining voter participation in federal elections, the traditional vote on election day near your home method is not working. Special polls for groups like students who are in the middle of exams or moving between schools, home and summer jobs are necessary to prevent them from being disenfranchised. The same goes for aboriginals on reserves. If you don’t set up special polls on the reserves, the vast majority won’t vote. They may not have a vehicle to drive twenty or thirty miles to the nearest polling station, or a license, or the money to buy the fuel for driving to the polling station.
      Being able to vote in an election should be easy, the choice of who to vote for, shouldn’t be. Anything which makes it easier for people to vote should be adopted.

    • Wherever? Not really, only at polls, advance polls, special ballot stations, elections canada, in your own home by mail-in ballot, from your condo in Florida by mail-in ballot…etc. etc. There are a lot of ways that Elections Canada makes it possible for every Canadian citizen to vote, even if overseas on vaction, military service, or buisness. Whenever? Not really, only between the drop of the writ (when the election is called) and the official election day. ANYONE can go into their local Elections Canada at any time the office is open, and vote by special ballot at their convenience. As soon as there is a nominated candidate in your riding, you can vote anyday of the writ. So, RMB, this is far from pathetic. Maybe you need to go to the Elections Canada website and find out how to vote, because you are clearly misinformed.

    • RMB your pathetic, this is the third election in a row at which the U of G, (Chancellor Pamela Wallin, the Queen of Right Wing malice makers) didn’t have a problem with it, but now that she has failed in here attempt to destroy liberal democracy in Guelph for Stephen, and she’s been dumped for the unelected Senate, now the cons do. ) we need more opportunities to vote, not fewer. Where is Harper’s democracy reforms he’s preached at us for fifteen years ? Nowhere.

  6. Students and young people should not be able allowed to vote…lets make sure their childish view of the world remains on their campuses and out of politics.

    • Childish view? Excuse me? As a tax-paying legal age citizen of this country (whose family was here BEFORE Confederation, thank you very much) who happens to be at university, obtaining an education in order to be a more productive member of society, it is my RIGHT as enshrined in the charter to have be able to vote. Perhaps you’d like to disenfranchise black people, or recent immigrants? Ageist bigots like you are what is wrong with this country.

      • If only Tax paying people were allowed to vote the NDP wouldn’t get any votes at all.

      • BleedingBlue says:
        April 15, 2011 at 5:21 pm
        Students and young people should not be able allowed to vote…lets make sure their childish view of the world remains on their campuses and out of politics.

        You know, I’ve never heard anything good about “blue blood”. In my opinion, the young people of this country have the most to lose, and the most to gain, from a change in government. To see their youth as “childishness” is not only ignorant, but childish in and of itself. They have as much right and really, responsibility, as anyone to vote, if not more. And for that matter, when was the last time you read a textbook, or wrote an essay, or put your mental capacities through any kind of rigorous activity? To your credit, I’m sure your old and wi… no, acutally never mind. You’re probably just old.

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  8. The reason I think this is ridiculous is because they just set up a random voting station without pre-approval and with posters for the Liberal party nearby.

    I am a student at Queen’s who wants to vote in my home riding, but cannot be there for the election or pre-election, so I took the time to cast a special ballot and it is now in the mail on its way to Ottawa. It is not that hard to do. The government already offers 3 advanced polling days as well as the regular election day, plus special ballots or voting at elections canada offices. There are more than enough choices without someone setting up in the middle of a campus in unknown conditions.

    The Liberals/NDP will do whatever they can to get votes and try to not look stupid for wasting Canadian’s money on this election even if that means breaking the rules.

    As for ‘Just A Thought’ you are hilarious for thinking that you can classify all Conservatives under one personality structure, it is quite funny actually.

    The other thing is that students do tend to lean left as they do not have real life experience and vote for reasons other than the party’s platform (aka Barrack Obama). If they actually care they should go vote like everyone else, they should not get special treatment.

    • Horeshit, this is the THIRD election in a row the U of G has held these voter encouragement events. This was no secret coup. The PRESIDENT of the University had his face painted Avatar Blue because he challenged the student body that he would let them paint his face if 1500 of them pledged to vote, they surpassed that pledge (not all of them voted at the Special Ballot – the rules for which were on the the Con’s own website.) Only moronic Tory spins-ters are saying this was a hidden event. It was all over the University, all over Guelph, all over Facebook. Get a life.

      • Funny that a student from Queen’s (if that’s actually the case) is making supposed statements of fact regarding a school they don’t attend.

  9. Another example of left wing manipulation of the voting process where the rules on elections goes out the window. As far as I knew polling stations dont open until May 1st and there are supposedly specific rules on advance polling. This is plain ballot stuffing and you freaking leftist fascists know it. Not surprising, next we’ll hear the professors will want to look at each ballot to ensure they were filled out “correctly”. What a joke.

    • Left wing commie manipulation! Those lefties will do anything to… ballot stuffing!! etc etc etc.

      Sign… the first person to post ridiculous partisan rhetoric automatically loses – although I assume that you are comfortable enough in your tinfoil hat for this not to be a concern.

      Elections Canada is part of the federal government – which is, at present, ran by the conservative party. Elections Canada says this event was OK. The Conservative party themselves have, very specifically, now said that this was OK. But – crazy people? It still being a free country, they can think whatever they like (unless of course the CIA steals their thoughts – good thing you’ve got that hat).

    • No, that’s a lie, the Cons own website had the rules for Special Ballots listed up until yesterday, not sure if they are still up, but I have a cached copy of it, Fascism is a right wing ideology, it’s what RB Bennet Geroge Drew and Arthur Meighen supported during the 1920’s and 30’s,w what Duplessis practice in Quebec: corporatism Mussolini called it, the merger of Business and the state, see corporate tax cuts, tar sands giveaways, doing nothing about the environment because Big Oil says no.
      You are the joke sir,because you have no idea what you’re talking about.

    • “This is plain ballot stuffing and you freaking leftist fascists know it.”

      And of course, the ever-diligent Republi…I mean Conservatives…raise a stink about this…On the third election in a row that such a special polling station has been held at the U of G.

      And potential Glenn Beck listener, I agree with Mr. Prager that you have much to learn in terms of political ideologies.

  10. BleedingBlue has a good point, if stated somewhat bluntly. The problem with youth is that as the self is only partially developed, the view is for “What is better…for me” mixed with idealism on changing the world. In every case, it leads to more socialism, which is really rebadged communism…The youth generally don’t carry the financial burden of funding the feel good causes…hence most young people are socialists and later convert to conservatism as they age and grow up…those that don’t grow up vote NDP.

    • We live in a corporate socialist state already, what young people want is a free world, NOT one controlled by BIG Business, the gangster capitalists who shook down the world economy from wall street and got away: youth idealism is the antidote to right wing cynicism about their rights to pillage the planet, kill the young off in wars etc etc etc

  11. “it leads to more socialism, which is really rebadged communism”

    And I didn’t think either 1) Canadians watched Glenn Beck or 2) Glenn Beck viewers didn’t know Canada existed…

  12. er knew Canada existed…my bad…