Harper government misled Parliament on G8 spending: AG

Auditor-General’s report suggests Conservatives may have broken the law


 

A draft of a confidential report by Auditor-General Sheila Fraser seen by The Canadian Press alleges the Harper government misinformed Parliament, and may have broken the law, in order to win approval for a $50-million G8 fund. Fraser’s report, which is not due to be released until after the May 2 election, reveals that Industry Minister Tony Clement, Huntsville’s mayor and the general manager of Deerhurst Resort chose 32 projects that would receive the funding without regard to government criteria or the needs of the summit. Huntsville is in Tony Clement’s riding, and the Industry Minister has been accused of showering the Conservative riding with funds for questionable projects in the run-up to the G8 Summit at Deerhurst Resort.

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Harper government misled Parliament on G8 spending: AG

  1. The report says the government disagrees with the Auditor-General's finding. Treasury Board officials maintain it's “normal practice” to aggregate expenditure information in the supplementary estimates and say it was done in this case “to avoid any delays that might occur if a new funding mechanism was created for the one-time (G8) event.

    Feel that envelope stretttttching again?

    Always an excuse, never accountable.

  2. The report says the government disagrees with the Auditor-General's finding. Treasury Board officials maintain it's “normal practice” to aggregate expenditure information in the supplementary estimates and say it was done in this case “to avoid any delays that might occur if a new funding mechanism was created for the one-time (G8) event.

    Feel that envelope stretttttching again?

    Always an excuse, never accountable.

  3. Harper, you got some 'splainin' to do…

  4. Harper, you got some 'splainin' to do…

    • What is it that attracts all these Cons to politics?

      • Their need to prove that government doesn't work.

      • Probably the same thing that attracts so many to the other parties as well – starts with "pork" and ends with "barrel".

  5. The Harper regime platform –

    -Prorogue Parliament on multiple occasions at the cost of $millions of taxpayers dollars.

    -$16-30+ Billion on American first strike fighter aircraft.

    -$Billions wasted on G8/G20.

    -$Billions on American style mega prisons.

    -Attacks on low-income seniors.

    -Attack veterans Ombudsman Pat Stogran for doing his job.

    -For the first time in the history on the UN, Canada is in the noose-bleed section & not the main table.

    -A world disgrace from Copenhagen to Cancun with its head up American AXX on climate change.

    -Scrapping of the long-form census in spite of unanimous condemnation.

  6. -$Millions wasted on partisan advertising and Economic Action Plan signage.

    -The biggest spending finance minister in Canadian history.

    -Authoritarian style government Muzzling dissent and stifling free speech.

    -A PM who vowed to "never appoint an unelected senator" who now cant appoint them fast enough.

    -A government who campaigned on accountability & ethics now causing an un-necessary election in 2011 for being found in contempt of Parliament for the first time in CDN history.

    -$Billions to help the Americans control our border & sovereignty.

    -Attack the PBO Kevin Page for doing his job.

    -More $Billions in profits for large corporations, banks & dirty oil. ZERO for health care, day care, pharmacare, retirement, etc.

    -Kill gun control.

    -The largest deficit in CDN history.

    Did I miss anything?, oh that's right its all hidden from both the opposition & the CDN public. get out & VOTE!.

  7. The true explanation : "we wanted to spend money in Tony Clement's riding but parliament would not have approved it, so we lied and included it in some bogus spending estimate, we do it all the time…what's the big deal this time?"

  8. The true explanation : "we wanted to spend money in Tony Clement's riding but parliament would not have approved it, so we lied and included it in some bogus spending estimate, we do it all the time…what's the big deal this time?"

  9. If the report is confidential, how is it we are seeing it? Isn't the timing a little suspect? And if anyone has broken the law, surely it's the individual who released a confidential report.

    And what does "may" have broken the law mean? Either they did or they didn't.

    I'm pretty sure we'll never get the answers to these questions.

  10. If the report is confidential, how is it we are seeing it? Isn't the timing a little suspect? And if anyone has broken the law, surely it's the individual who released a confidential report.

    And what does "may" have broken the law mean? Either they did or they didn't.

    I'm pretty sure we'll never get the answers to these questions.

    • Better we see it after the election, SCF?

      • No, I'd like to see the answers to all of those questions right now.

    • You are right – why is it sitting on Harper's desk. Why hasn't it been released.

      • I believe the report is on the AG's desk, and she has no intention of releasing it until Parliament is in session again.

        • It was also apparently on Ryan Sparrow's desk too, recently. Otherwise, how does the Conservative campaign war room know what's in this draft, and how it may differ from the "final" report?

          • I should have said the FINAL report is on the AG's desk.

            The DRAFT is sent to several government departments for review and comments.

    • "And what does "may" have broken the law mean? Either they did or they didn't"

      I'm guessing that this is like the Elections Canada issue where the law isn't black & white. The Cons chose to take advantage of some "wiggle room".

      • They 'may' have broken the law is used because in Canada the final answer to that question is decided by the courts. It is the same as the word 'Alleged'. It dosen't surprise me in the least that Harper has done this though. Just wait to see what happens if they get a majority!

        • That's usually not true. If there is no dispute regarding what happened, and the law is clear, then the courts are usually not required to determine if the law was broken.

          If the supposed law that was broken was that they spent a lot of money, then we've been through this whole brou-haha before.

          • How can you say that? Until any charges are brought to a court of law and a guilty verdict is handed down the accused is assumed innocent. That's literally ALWAYS how it works. The crown has the onus to prove guilt.

            I must say it is somewhat alarming that you would even try to dispute this.

          • You are arguing a straw man. Do you not understand the meaning of "usually"? I used it twice. Anyone who admits guilt can simply plead guilty. Or they can agree to a settlement before trial. Most of the time a trial never takes place – especially when it comes to misdemeanors such as shoplifting. Of course anybody has the right to a trial. That does not mean every crime results in a trial!

    • "I'm pretty sure we'll never get the answers to these questions."

      If Harper can find a way to nail the person who leaked it and make the story about the leak itself, then we'll get answers to your first set of questions pretty quick.

      If Harper gets his majority, we may never get the answer to the question in your second paragraph.

  11. .
    Mr. Harper doesn't present the typical image of an autocrat. He's no Kim Jong-Il, or Gaddafi, or Hitler. His disarming visual and temperamental blandness allows him to do what few other leaders in the world could get away with:

    He takes 3 cookies from the democracy-jar, apologizes if he gets caught, and puts 2 back. Over and over and over again.

    Do the math.

    Voters are being robbed either behind their backs, or in plain sight, and don't even realize what's happening.
    .

  12. .
    Mr. Harper doesn't present the typical image of an autocrat. He's no Kim Jong-Il, or Gaddafi, or Hitler. His disarming visual and temperamental blandness allows him to do what few other leaders in the world could get away with:

    He takes 3 cookies from the democracy-jar, apologizes if he gets caught, and puts 2 back. Over and over and over again.

    Do the math.

    Voters are being robbed either behind their backs, or in plain sight, and don't even realize what's happening.
    .

  13. Better we see it after the election, SCF?

  14. You are right – why is it sitting on Harper's desk. Why hasn't it been released.

  15. My respect for the Auditor General has dropped.the only way it can be restored is for the full release of her report. This little bit of dribble is highly suspicious of partisan politics by government appointees leaning into the Liberal camp. It is really getting nasty in this country more like the third world

  16. My respect for the Auditor General has dropped.the only way it can be restored is for the full release of her report. This little bit of dribble is highly suspicious of partisan politics by government appointees leaning into the Liberal camp. It is really getting nasty in this country more like the third world

    • She can't release it. It doesn't matter if the Easter bunny asks her too, she has to release it to parliament, which is not currently sitting. Get it?

      • The Easter bunny is more real than the corrupt Harper Conservatives.

    • It wasn't the AG who released it. The AG office shares close drafts with departments who may then wish to provide more info., or just prepare the way they will respond to the media. The copy the CP saw was one of those shared drafts.

      • Part of me (the part that think Harper needs to be brought down in this election) is glad of the leak. The part of me that thinks it is wrong for bureaucrats to interfere with an election is appalled. I'm really not sure how to react to this. I'm glad if you are right about the source being from other than the AG's office, though; she's one of the few in Ottawa for whom I have unreserved respect.

        • Perhaps the leak came from one of those mulitude of political staffers in the PMO and littered about all government departments. Perhaps one of them finally grew a conscience and decided he or she would turn the tables on Harper. Perhaps they've seen too many of their colleagues thrown under the buss or experienced too many of Harper's tantrums, the last one being the straw that broke the camel's back.

    • The leaks were the guys who sat around the cabinet table with Harper. The ONLY copies of any draft of the report given to anyone outside the Auditor General's office, were given to cabinet mininsters, notably John Baird. Subsequently copies were made available by cabinet ministers to various political staffers in the departments mentioned in the report. It is very clear that one of these political staffers were responsible for leaking the report, probably the same one who plagarized the Auditor General's commnets and inserted them in a deceitful CPC committee report on the same matter. The regime is rotting from within

  17. She can't release it. It doesn't matter if the Easter bunny asks her too, she has to release it to parliament, which is not currently sitting. Get it?

  18. The Conservatives do not belong in Parliament. They belong in jail.

  19. The Conservatives do not belong in Parliament. They belong in jail.

    • Maybe that's why Harper wants the new prisons? To house members of his own party!

  20. It wasn't the AG who released it. The AG office shares close drafts with departments who may then wish to provide more info., or just prepare the way they will respond to the media. The copy the CP saw was one of those shared drafts.

  21. If the report exists provide a link so that I can read the report for myself. Canadian Press aand Globe and Mail stories have proven to be false too many time for me to believe their spin of things. If they can't provide the report their manipulation degrades both the auditor general and Canadian democracy

  22. If the report exists provide a link so that I can read the report for myself. Canadian Press aand Globe and Mail stories have proven to be false too many time for me to believe their spin of things. If they can't provide the report their manipulation degrades both the auditor general and Canadian democracy

    • What degrades Canadian democracy is the way the Cons have been
      undermining Parliament's authority while making it very clear that the
      current government has no intention of being held to account.

      Morons like you who support the Cons only make matters worse.

  23. "And what does "may" have broken the law mean? Either they did or they didn't"

    I'm guessing that this is like the Elections Canada issue where the law isn't black & white. The Cons chose to take advantage of some "wiggle room".

  24. What is it that attracts all these Cons to politics?

  25. I believe the report is on the AG's desk, and she has no intention of releasing it until Parliament is in session again.

  26. Really pretty sad and pathetic watching the Conbots turn themselves inside out trying to rationalize this scandal, or talk their way around why the report can't be trusted.

    Say what you will about Liberals, so many of its supporters were sickened by what happened, and even Martin's investigation couldn't stem the tide.

    Harper's supporters are a different species altogether. He can turn his back on Tripe E Senate, electoral reform, ethics in government, balanced budgets, and instead embrace influence peddling and financial corruption – and his supporters will find any excuse in the book to accept it.

    As I said, pretty freakin' sad.

  27. Really pretty sad and pathetic watching the Conbots turn themselves inside out trying to rationalize this scandal, or talk their way around why the report can't be trusted.

    Say what you will about Liberals, so many of its supporters were sickened by what happened, and even Martin's investigation couldn't stem the tide.

    Harper's supporters are a different species altogether. He can turn his back on Tripe E Senate, electoral reform, ethics in government, balanced budgets, and instead embrace influence peddling and financial corruption – and his supporters will find any excuse in the book to accept it.

    As I said, pretty freakin' sad.

    • No, partisans like you are rather sad. You don't even know the facts before your jump on your "burn the witch" bandwagon.

      • Other than this report, on which the jury is still out (or at least this juror is), I'd say he's bang on.

  28. What degrades Canadian democracy is the way the Cons have been
    undermining Parliament's authority while making it very clear that the
    current government has no intention of being held to account.

    Morons like you who support the Cons only make matters worse.

  29. They 'may' have broken the law is used because in Canada the final answer to that question is decided by the courts. It is the same as the word 'Alleged'. It dosen't surprise me in the least that Harper has done this though. Just wait to see what happens if they get a majority!

  30. Maybe that's why Harper wants the new prisons? To house members of his own party!

  31. I guess the conservatives in Ottawa are the same as the conservatives in my home town. They represent their own and the rest of us can go to hell!

  32. The Easter bunny is more real than the corrupt Harper Conservatives.

  33. I can't tell if this is a big deal or not – the usual apologists are apologizing, and the usual naysayers are saying nay. Has this revelation changed anybody's view of the Harper government and/or decided anybody's vote? Is this a Grand Mere or an Adscam we are looking at?

    Incidentally, isn't there any way around the whole "can't release the full report if parliament is not sitting" thing? Like what if all of the party leaders agree to release it?

  34. I can't tell if this is a big deal or not – the usual apologists are apologizing, and the usual naysayers are saying nay. Has this revelation changed anybody's view of the Harper government and/or decided anybody's vote? Is this a Grand Mere or an Adscam we are looking at?

    Incidentally, isn't there any way around the whole "can't release the full report if parliament is not sitting" thing? Like what if all of the party leaders agree to release it?

  35. http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/med_fs_

    Public Statement from Sheila Fraser, Auditor General of Canada, regarding news reports about the audit of the G8 Legacy Infrastructure Fund

    We will not release or comment on our audit report on the G8 Legacy Infrastructure Fund. Under the Auditor General Act, we can only present reports when Parliament is sitting. The Office of the Auditor General of Canada remains the custodian of its reports until they are presented to the Speaker of the House of Commons for tabling.

    I strongly caution the public to wait until our final report on the G8 Legacy Infrastructure Fund has been tabled in Parliament and made public.

    We work very hard to keep our reports confidential before they are tabled. There are indications that an early draft of this report may have been released by someone outside our Office. Our normal audit process requires that we share early drafts of our reports with government departments. We do this so they can validate the facts on which our conclusions are based, provide any additional relevant information, and so they can prepare responses to our recommendations. Sometimes during the process of fact validation, additional information is brought to our attention. Only the final report that is tabled in Parliament represents our audit findings and conclusions.

  36. http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/med_fs_

    Public Statement from Sheila Fraser, Auditor General of Canada, regarding news reports about the audit of the G8 Legacy Infrastructure Fund

    We will not release or comment on our audit report on the G8 Legacy Infrastructure Fund. Under the Auditor General Act, we can only present reports when Parliament is sitting. The Office of the Auditor General of Canada remains the custodian of its reports until they are presented to the Speaker of the House of Commons for tabling.

    I strongly caution the public to wait until our final report on the G8 Legacy Infrastructure Fund has been tabled in Parliament and made public.

    We work very hard to keep our reports confidential before they are tabled. There are indications that an early draft of this report may have been released by someone outside our Office. Our normal audit process requires that we share early drafts of our reports with government departments. We do this so they can validate the facts on which our conclusions are based, provide any additional relevant information, and so they can prepare responses to our recommendations. Sometimes during the process of fact validation, additional information is brought to our attention. Only the final report that is tabled in Parliament represents our audit findings and conclusions.

    • I recognize that Sheila Fraser is duty-bound to not release anything, but there must be some way around it. Whether the allegations in the leaked report are reflected in the final one or not, this is pretty vital information for Canadians in the midst of an election. Maybe somebody could "accidentally" drop the final report outside the offices of the Globe and Mail.

  37. Is anyone surprised by this ? Harper may be surprised because he thought he had buried it until after the election. Deceiving Stephen.

  38. A "draft" that may very well have been refuted by other evidence, and which is specifically disavowed by the AG, is sited as

    the gospel words of the AG.

    The media knows what journalistic standards are.

    They also know who they want to win.

    The latter point obviously trumping the former.

    Meanwhile, the very true fact that a WHITE SUPREMIST LEADER may very well be still a Liberal party MP running in this election, doesn't get a whisper.

    Making bad calls against the CPC and putting away the whistle for the Libs.

    The scandal of our generation.

  39. Is anyone surprised by this ? Harper may be surprised because he thought he had buried it until after the election. Deceiving Stephen.

  40. A "draft" that may very well have been refuted by other evidence, and which is specifically disavowed by the AG, is sited as

    the gospel words of the AG.

    The media knows what journalistic standards are.

    They also know who they want to win.

    The latter point obviously trumping the former.

    Meanwhile, the very true fact that a WHITE SUPREMIST LEADER may very well be still a Liberal party MP running in this election, doesn't get a whisper.

    Making bad calls against the CPC and putting away the whistle for the Libs.

    The scandal of our generation.

    • Actually the scandal of our generation (and all past generations, in the commonwealth) was Harpers government brought down for Contempt of Parliament. Thats a Commonwealth record he will hold for a very long time.

    • You're absolutely right Chet… The media's activist, dishonest behaviour in this election is the biggest scandal Canada has seen since Adscam. Truly corrupt media deliberately lying and cheating in order to hijack an election in favour of the Liberals and Separatists. Absolutely scandalous!!

      • American Go Home!

        • Tribal, Liberal party employee pick up you're pay check!

        • Or were you referring to your inserted American, Liberal, candidate Iggo… Was that the American you were demanding go home?

          • Once again, American Go Home. You know who you are. So do the rest of us.

          • Yes, I agree, your American Liberal candidate should go home. When you say… "so do the rest of us"… who exactly are you referring to? Who are, "the rest of us" that you claim to speak for? Other Liberals? Other criminals? Other Liberal media agents? Other "Proud non Canadians"? Perhaps you can clarify who the "rest of us" are, and why you claim to be their representative.

          • The rest of us Canadians. Dont blow a gasket. You're going off message.

  41. If this is true – then let that party which has not lied throw the first stone – and if history is any example then suggest you may want to wait for what will happen after the election – say a coalition anyone? ..any leaks on that one? Every country has to spend big $$ to host these international events – Canada is no exception. But if you want to complain about costs and lies ( parliament told the original cost would be 2 million? ) – look at this COMPLETELY USELESS ABSOUTE WASTE OF TAXPAYER $$ on a Gun Registry but its still supported by the Libs/ NDP/ Bloc – after that useless Gun Regristry expenditure, who would care where any federal monies are spent?
    Now the issue of a leaks from the AG's dept is important – because it appears this type of insider help would have been necessary to bring the well origanized and timely accusation of "contempt" of parliament by the opposition given the "detail" required around expenditures – it appears the Harper government has a senior public service that is partisan. Now, with this leak there is an integrity issue and the great department of the Auditor G's has been sullied.

  42. If this is true – then let that party which has not lied throw the first stone – and if history is any example then suggest you may want to wait for what will happen after the election – say a coalition anyone? ..any leaks on that one? Every country has to spend big $$ to host these international events – Canada is no exception. But if you want to complain about costs and lies ( parliament told the original cost would be 2 million? ) – look at this COMPLETELY USELESS ABSOUTE WASTE OF TAXPAYER $$ on a Gun Registry but its still supported by the Libs/ NDP/ Bloc – after that useless Gun Regristry expenditure, who would care where any federal monies are spent?
    Now the issue of a leaks from the AG's dept is important – because it appears this type of insider help would have been necessary to bring the well origanized and timely accusation of "contempt" of parliament by the opposition given the "detail" required around expenditures – it appears the Harper government has a senior public service that is partisan. Now, with this leak there is an integrity issue and the great department of the Auditor G's has been sullied.

    • Should that have been Martin's thinking when he launched a public inquiry into Adscam? Or should he have done what you're suggesting, and shrug his shoulders and point to the corruption of the Mulroney years – or, better yet, the Pacific Scandal under Macdonald? Because, as you say, let that party which has not lied throw the first stone. Might as well excuse all future ethical lapses and scandals too, while you're at it.

    • In other words "leave us alone Canada. How can we buy off voters if you keep watching us! And besides, doesn't everybody do it.

  43. I recognize that Sheila Fraser is duty-bound to not release anything, but there must be some way around it. Whether the allegations in the leaked report are reflected in the final one or not, this is pretty vital information for Canadians in the midst of an election. Maybe somebody could "accidentally" drop the final report outside the offices of the Globe and Mail.

  44. Should that have been Martin's thinking when he launched a public inquiry into Adscam? Or should he have done what you're suggesting, and shrug his shoulders and point to the corruption of the Mulroney years – or, better yet, the Pacific Scandal under Macdonald? Because, as you say, let that party which has not lied throw the first stone. Might as well excuse all future ethical lapses and scandals too, while you're at it.

  45. It was also apparently on Ryan Sparrow's desk too, recently. Otherwise, how does the Conservative campaign war room know what's in this draft, and how it may differ from the "final" report?

  46. In other words "leave us alone Canada. How can we buy off voters if you keep watching us! And besides, doesn't everybody do it.

    • They took a comment she made TEN YEARS ago, and cut and pasted it into the report. As people like to say, square that circle! They are ^NOT to be trusted.

      • My mistake. Not ten years ago but In 2010. I had to post this so the conservative trolls would not have a chance to jump on the mistake and deflect the message.

        • OK then. Jump all over it. It was ten years ago! lol

  47. Their need to prove that government doesn't work.

  48. "The report says the government disagrees with the Auditor-General's finding."
    the Harper government also disagreed with contempt of parliament
    they still disagree with it since they believe it was a really a "coalition" of parliament

  49. "The report says the government disagrees with the Auditor-General's finding."
    the Harper government also disagreed with contempt of parliament
    they still disagree with it since they believe it was a really a "coalition" of parliament

    • There is a huge difference between those two things, and if you don't want to sound like a partisan robot, you would be wise to make a distinction. The contempt motion was meaningless because it was passed by the folks that want Harper's job. Asking the opposition to be the arbiter of whether the government is evil and corrupt is sort of like asking Microsoft whether you should buy a Mac.

      Sheila Fraser, on the other hand, is a non-partisan figure. In fact she has a fair amount of credibility among Conservatives, since she is part of the reason they took power in the first place. When she says funds were misappropriated, people will listen – and not just people who already hate Harper.

      • The contempt finding had plenty of meaning, and the motion would not have passed if the Harper government had not provided plenty of evidence of being in contempt of Parliament. That actual finding of contempt was for their refusal to provide numbers and backup for their plans to expand prisons. But the Conservatives have also demonstrated contempt in the Oda affair, with Oda lying to Parliment, and in their refusal to provide documents about detainees being tortured in Afghanistan. The Conservative Party of Canada has demonstrated contempt for Parliament repeatedly. They belong in jail, not in Parliament.

    • When they forget their umbrellas, they disagree that it's raining.

  50. There is a huge difference between those two things, and if you don't want to sound like a partisan robot, you would be wise to make a distinction. The contempt motion was meaningless because it was passed by the folks that want Harper's job. Asking the opposition to be the arbiter of whether the government is evil and corrupt is sort of like asking Microsoft whether you should buy a Mac.

    Sheila Fraser, on the other hand, is a non-partisan figure. In fact she has a fair amount of credibility among Conservatives, since she is part of the reason they took power in the first place. When she says funds were misappropriated, people will listen – and not just people who already hate Harper.

  51. No, I'd like to see the answers to all of those questions right now.

  52. That's usually not true. If there is no dispute regarding what happened, and the law is clear, then the courts are usually not required to determine if the law was broken.

    If the supposed law that was broken was that they spent a lot of money, then we've been through this whole brou-haha before.

  53. No, partisans like you are rather sad. You don't even know the facts before your jump on your "burn the witch" bandwagon.

  54. All the more reason not to reward the scumbag, control freak, dictator with a majority.

  55. All the more reason not to reward the scumbag, control freak, dictator with a majority.

  56. I should have said the FINAL report is on the AG's desk.

    The DRAFT is sent to several government departments for review and comments.

  57. We have a democratic deficit…and people are ticked with governments in power and the current political parties -look at the low voting numbers. As with the Liberal Party – taking this high road – by implementing the commision on "their" Adscam and not giving that chance to the the incoming party, who was forming government- and they were still found " …criminal…" it appears they had the most to gain and nothing to lose by the "obvious" – all $240 million of it – a Liberal apppointed commission; maybe it should have been consider a "conflict of interest". As for the Mulroney corruption – at least it was Scribber's money and not our taxpayer monies – but I believe there was no excuse for not paying federal taxes. However, thats also a,moot point – a previous Privacy Commissioner – I believe George R (?). – appointed by Chretien and was given a pardon by Canada Revenue Agency in order to be able to occupy his appointed position – not sure he ever paid that tax bill(?)….

  58. It's become an ugly recurring cycle that Government after Government falls on it's own accord rather than being succeeded by "better" solutions.
    It hasn't been that long since Paul Martin lost on Liberal corruption. It's dark humour if the Harper led Conservatives fail due to their own corruption.

  59. It's become an ugly recurring cycle that Government after Government falls on it's own accord rather than being succeeded by "better" solutions.
    It hasn't been that long since Paul Martin lost on Liberal corruption. It's dark humour if the Harper led Conservatives fail due to their own corruption.

  60. Actually the scandal of our generation (and all past generations, in the commonwealth) was Harpers government brought down for Contempt of Parliament. Thats a Commonwealth record he will hold for a very long time.

  61. The money Mulrony got from Schrieber pales in commparison to the money he got from Canadian taxpayers for 'slandering' his good name! I believe it was $1.3 million dollars. He took that money, from us, knowing he was guilty. Not to mention how much he got from airbus purchases. The true amount we will never know.

  62. The money Mulrony got from Schrieber pales in commparison to the money he got from Canadian taxpayers for 'slandering' his good name! I believe it was $1.3 million dollars. He took that money, from us, knowing he was guilty. Not to mention how much he got from airbus purchases. The true amount we will never know.

    • Maybe Stevie Cameron knows what is true or not?…I believe it was a liberal government that gladly paid Mulroney the money which probably covered his legal costs – not exactly a windfall – but whats a million here or a million there as Mr Chretien stated about Adscam- yes indeed, maybe a diversion while your pilfering the coffers of $240 million..and the liberal party still owes $140 miilion.

  63. They took a comment she made TEN YEARS ago, and cut and pasted it into the report. As people like to say, square that circle! They are ^NOT to be trusted.

  64. How can you say that? Until any charges are brought to a court of law and a guilty verdict is handed down the accused is assumed innocent. That's literally ALWAYS how it works. The crown has the onus to prove guilt.

    I must say it is somewhat alarming that you would even try to dispute this.

  65. My mistake. Not ten years ago but In 2010. I had to post this so the conservative trolls would not have a chance to jump on the mistake and deflect the message.

  66. You're absolutely right Chet… The media's activist, dishonest behaviour in this election is the biggest scandal Canada has seen since Adscam. Truly corrupt media deliberately lying and cheating in order to hijack an election in favour of the Liberals and Separatists. Absolutely scandalous!!

  67. American Go Home!

  68. OK then. Jump all over it. It was ten years ago! lol

  69. This whole smear stinks very badly, and it's timing, just before the debates is also very suspicious. Sounds like more dirty tricks from the unscrupulous Liberal/Media/Separatists. Shameful, even scandalous behaviour from the media and the Liberals. Someone, probably a Liberal leaning public servant leaked this incomplete document to some Liberal media hack ( Joan Bryden) and presto, a fresh new "scandal" gift wrapped for the Liberal following lynch mob. The Liberal media are deliberately, and deceitfully trying to hijack this election and insert the foreign Count into the PMO, and it is a bloody disgrace. Liberals/Media/Separatists are desperately scary, viciously undemocratic, power at any cost jackals. Truly disturbing.

  70. Another memorable comment from your paid american republican troll.

  71. Another memorable comment from your paid american republican troll.

    • Are you referring to the Liberals inserted leader Iggo, the self described American? Is that the" American Republican Troll" you're referring to? Because if you are, perhaps you are unaware that your American candidate for PM states that he is an "American Democrat", not a Republican. If you're going to cash a paycheck from the Liberals for trolling around MacLeans threads, you might want to know which American political party your self described American leader supports. Hope this helps, Proud non Canadian.

      • Harper lays in bed at night hoping he will one day make Canada just like the States. It's been a long time dream of his. As for getting paid, we all know Harper is paying people to troll websites and to date we havent heard that the liberals are doing it. Just going on facts thats all. And I believe you are an American and being paid to attack and deflect negative conservative comments.
        I trace my Canadian family roots back to 1637 on my dads side and 1820 on my moms side. I am a very Proud Canadian. I dont need a paycheck to defend my country. Unlike conservative trolls. Whats in for them, first question they ask!

        • You are clearly a gigantic turd! A tribal turd at that… you wouldn't know a fact if it dropped on your oblong, empty, head. Since when has anything you've said about defending "your country"? Or are you so densely indoctrinated that you are incapable of understanding the difference between a country and a political party. Defending Liberals/Separatists is not defending the country bonehead! As for your imaginary "family roots", who cares!? You should change your avatar to Special interest Canadian, or Proud Liberal/Separatist, something more appropriate, that truly reflects your warped views.

          • Here we have our beloved (not) Trudeau lover demonstrating for us the ancient technique of hypocracy:
            accusing your opponent of the exact dirty traits your side exhibits regularly. Then when your opponent says
            "No, you are!", you can respond "Well that's real mature!" and roll your eyes. Absolutely disgusting.

          • It is more then slightly ironic to be called a hypocrite by a Liberal/ Separatist supporter.

          • You've proven my point yet again. Your arguments are empty and circular.
            As long as you have something to respond, you think you'll come out the
            winner simply by having the last (albeit hollow) last word. That's so sad.

          • Dont blow a gasket Trudeau Hater. You're going off message and Harper wouldn't be pleased with that. Stick to the script and oh yeah, you forgot to say coalition.

          • Well, Manure, it seems you are partaking in exactly the kind of hypocrisy you're accusing me of. Your judgments and assertions are empty and contradictory. No doubt you believe in your own self righteous, judgments, but it's that same self righteousness that renders you blind to the fact you are accusing others of doing exactly what you are doing. Therefore you are a hypocrite, who's fastidious judgments are as hollow as your critiques.

  72. Probably the same thing that attracts so many to the other parties as well – starts with "pork" and ends with "barrel".

  73. Tribal, Liberal party employee pick up you're pay check!

  74. Or were you referring to your inserted American, Liberal, candidate Iggo… Was that the American you were demanding go home?

  75. "I'm pretty sure we'll never get the answers to these questions."

    If Harper can find a way to nail the person who leaked it and make the story about the leak itself, then we'll get answers to your first set of questions pretty quick.

    If Harper gets his majority, we may never get the answer to the question in your second paragraph.

  76. Are you referring to the Liberals inserted leader Iggo, the self described American? Is that the" American Republican Troll" you're referring to? Because if you are, perhaps you are unaware that your American candidate for PM states that he is an "American Democrat", not a Republican. If you're going to cash a paycheck from the Liberals for trolling around MacLeans threads, you might want to know which American political party your self described American leader supports. Hope this helps, Proud non Canadian.

  77. Once again, American Go Home. You know who you are. So do the rest of us.

  78. Part of me (the part that think Harper needs to be brought down in this election) is glad of the leak. The part of me that thinks it is wrong for bureaucrats to interfere with an election is appalled. I'm really not sure how to react to this. I'm glad if you are right about the source being from other than the AG's office, though; she's one of the few in Ottawa for whom I have unreserved respect.

  79. Other than this report, on which the jury is still out (or at least this juror is), I'd say he's bang on.

  80. Harper lays in bed at night hoping he will one day make Canada just like the States. It's been a long time dream of his. As for getting paid, we all know Harper is paying people to troll websites and to date we havent heard that the liberals are doing it. Just going on facts thats all. And I believe you are an American and being paid to attack and deflect negative conservative comments.
    I trace my Canadian family roots back to 1637 on my dads side and 1820 on my moms side. I am a very Proud Canadian. I dont need a paycheck to defend my country. Unlike conservative trolls. Whats in for them, first question they ask!

  81. Enough of Harper. This country is not a church.

  82. Enough of Harper. This country is not a church.

    • It will be if he gets a majority!
      His church follows in traditions normally associated with American evangelicalism, a brand of Christianity that has a relatively small following in Canada. In that vein, Harper appears to have more in common with President George W. Bush, a born-again Christian, than with his predecessors. At the East Gate Alliance Church, the hymnals even contain the song America, the Beautiful. "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord," they read. Worshippers are encouraged to clap or raise their hands to the sky while singing.

  83. Yes, I agree, your American Liberal candidate should go home. When you say… "so do the rest of us"… who exactly are you referring to? Who are, "the rest of us" that you claim to speak for? Other Liberals? Other criminals? Other Liberal media agents? Other "Proud non Canadians"? Perhaps you can clarify who the "rest of us" are, and why you claim to be their representative.

  84. You are clearly a gigantic turd! A tribal turd at that… you wouldn't know a fact if it dropped on your oblong, empty, head. Since when has anything you've said about defending "your country"? Or are you so densely indoctrinated that you are incapable of understanding the difference between a country and a political party. Defending Liberals/Separatists is not defending the country bonehead! As for your imaginary "family roots", who cares!? You should change your avatar to Special interest Canadian, or Proud Liberal/Separatist, something more appropriate, that truly reflects your warped views.

  85. For those of you who are still going on about Adscam remember the Liberals lost power over it. You will no doubt be voting against Harper given all the scandals that have erupted including his contempt for Parliament.

  86. For those of you who are still going on about Adscam remember the Liberals lost power over it. You will no doubt be voting against Harper given all the scandals that have erupted including his contempt for Parliament.

  87. Here we have our beloved (not) Trudeau lover demonstrating for us the ancient technique of hypocracy:
    accusing your opponent of the exact dirty traits your side exhibits regularly. Then when your opponent says
    "No, you are!", you can respond "Well that's real mature!" and roll your eyes. Absolutely disgusting.

  88. You are arguing a straw man. Do you not understand the meaning of "usually"? I used it twice. Anyone who admits guilt can simply plead guilty. Or they can agree to a settlement before trial. Most of the time a trial never takes place – especially when it comes to misdemeanors such as shoplifting. Of course anybody has the right to a trial. That does not mean every crime results in a trial!

  89. It is more then slightly ironic to be called a hypocrite by a Liberal/ Separatist supporter.

  90. When they forget their umbrellas, they disagree that it's raining.

  91. Harper will enter the Guinness Record book for the most scandals, lies , deception, prorogation s, and sleazy appointments in the history of parliamentary democracy.

  92. Harper will enter the Guinness Record book for the most scandals, lies , deception, prorogation s, and sleazy appointments in the history of parliamentary democracy.

  93. You've proven my point yet again. Your arguments are empty and circular.
    As long as you have something to respond, you think you'll come out the
    winner simply by having the last (albeit hollow) last word. That's so sad.

  94. The contempt finding had plenty of meaning, and the motion would not have passed if the Harper government had not provided plenty of evidence of being in contempt of Parliament. That actual finding of contempt was for their refusal to provide numbers and backup for their plans to expand prisons. But the Conservatives have also demonstrated contempt in the Oda affair, with Oda lying to Parliment, and in their refusal to provide documents about detainees being tortured in Afghanistan. The Conservative Party of Canada has demonstrated contempt for Parliament repeatedly. They belong in jail, not in Parliament.

  95. Its apparent the party in power has old/new actions and they will have to defend them, while we tend to forget the past, misquote it or ignore the actions of those parties/leaders not currently in power. Some people somehow trust more the unknown entity – it appears that is what the Liberal Party is hoping for. Despite adscam and the lying by liberal leaders to get elected, we still elected Mr. Martin before Harper took over – its obvious once the people realized the reality, they knew how to vote. An Israel leader once stated, and I paraphase; people who forget what they had for breakfast have no right to chastise those who do.

  96. Its apparent the party in power has old/new actions and they will have to defend them, while we tend to forget the past, misquote it or ignore the actions of those parties/leaders not currently in power. Some people somehow trust more the unknown entity – it appears that is what the Liberal Party is hoping for. Despite adscam and the lying by liberal leaders to get elected, we still elected Mr. Martin before Harper took over – its obvious once the people realized the reality, they knew how to vote. An Israel leader once stated, and I paraphase; people who forget what they had for breakfast have no right to chastise those who do.

  97. The rats leak was on of the guys who sat around the cabinet table with Harper. The ONLY copies of any draft of the report given to anyone outside the Auditor General's office, were given to cabinet mininsters, notably John Baird. Subsequently copies were made available by cabinet ministers to various political staffers in the departments mentioned in the report, AND Demitri Soudas. It is very clear that one of these political staffers were responsible for leaking the report, probably the same one who plagarized the Auditor General's comments and inserted them in a deceitful CPC committee report on the same matter. The regime is rotting from within

  98. The leaks were the guys who sat around the cabinet table with Harper. The ONLY copies of any draft of the report given to anyone outside the Auditor General's office, were given to cabinet mininsters, notably John Baird. Subsequently copies were made available by cabinet ministers to various political staffers in the departments mentioned in the report. It is very clear that one of these political staffers were responsible for leaking the report, probably the same one who plagarized the Auditor General's commnets and inserted them in a deceitful CPC committee report on the same matter. The regime is rotting from within

  99. Perhaps the leak came from one of those mulitude of political staffers in the PMO and littered about all government departments. Perhaps one of them finally grew a conscience and decided he or she would turn the tables on Harper. Perhaps they've seen too many of their colleagues thrown under the buss or experienced too many of Harper's tantrums, the last one being the straw that broke the camel's back.

  100. Harper spent most of his time in office either abusing or misleading the media and the opposition parties. One of his strenghts used to be as a political tactician who knew all about timing of information releases to hurt other parties. So how could he or you, be surprised that the media and the opposition might close ranks and make sure this information is made available when it will create maximum damage for Harper. It just means that ALL parties have been forced to play the same game Harper does. IN any case it appears the primary source of the leak was the political staffers serving government ministers. So they've just been hoisted in their own petard.

  101. Harper spent most of his time in office either abusing or misleading the media and the opposition parties. One of his strenghts used to be as a political tactician who knew all about timing of information releases to hurt other parties. So how could he or you, be surprised that the media and the opposition might close ranks and make sure this information is made available when it will create maximum damage for Harper. It just means that ALL parties have been forced to play the same game Harper does. IN any case it appears the primary source of the leak was the political staffers serving government ministers. So they've just been hoisted in their own petard.

  102. I will still vote Conservative, no way am I letting some anointed Libby take hold of this country, no way

  103. The rest of us Canadians. Dont blow a gasket. You're going off message.

  104. Dont blow a gasket Trudeau Hater. You're going off message and Harper wouldn't be pleased with that. Stick to the script and oh yeah, you forgot to say coalition.

  105. It will be if he gets a majority!
    His church follows in traditions normally associated with American evangelicalism, a brand of Christianity that has a relatively small following in Canada. In that vein, Harper appears to have more in common with President George W. Bush, a born-again Christian, than with his predecessors. At the East Gate Alliance Church, the hymnals even contain the song America, the Beautiful. "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord," they read. Worshippers are encouraged to clap or raise their hands to the sky while singing.

  106. Well, Manure, it seems you are partaking in exactly the kind of hypocrisy you're accusing me of. Your judgments and assertions are empty and contradictory. No doubt you believe in your own self righteous, judgments, but it's that same self righteousness that renders you blind to the fact you are accusing others of doing exactly what you are doing. Therefore you are a hypocrite, who's fastidious judgments are as hollow as your critiques.

  107. Maybe Stevie Cameron knows what is true or not?…I believe it was a liberal government that gladly paid Mulroney the money which probably covered his legal costs – not exactly a windfall – but whats a million here or a million there as Mr Chretien stated about Adscam- yes indeed, maybe a diversion while your pilfering the coffers of $240 million..and the liberal party still owes $140 miilion.