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Advising the Governor General


 

Ekos asks what should happen if a minority government is defeated soon after the next election.

The EKOS-iPolitics survey finds two-in-five Canadians – 43 per cent – think the governor general should call on the leader of the Official Opposition to form a new government if the next prime minister’s party is immediately defeated. Only 19 per cent of Canadians think another election should be called. The remaining 38 per cent either had no opinion or refused to respond.

Leger asks a similar question and gets a similar response.


 

Advising the Governor General

  1. Just wait for Michael Byers as PM Layton's personal foreign policy adviser, and Steve Staples as chief of staff to the MND! http://www.cdfai.org/the3dsblog/?p=186 http://unambig.com/so-staying-in-afstans-about-th

    If T. Jack does become PM I fear for relations with the US and the effects on the CF. The NDP ideal is a gendarmerie to serve the UN and to put out forest fires at home (not brush fires abroad): Smokey the Soldier!

    "The NDP Platform on Defence" http://www.cdfai.org/the3dsblog/?p=209

    Once they see the budget realities the CF will take real hits, contrary to the platform.

    Mark
    Ottawa

    • Ah, the "T." hides so much proof that you are a shameless Con shill. The only thing more shameful is that you tried to hide it at all.

    • I see panic has set in. LOL

    • The anti-NDP panic is very unbecoming, folks. Do Conservatives and Liberals really not get it? The whole reason the NDP is doing well is because people are tired of fear-mongering crap like this.

    • Are any of those worse than Gary Lunn the evolution-denying chiropractor as Minister of Science?

  2. Refreshing no? The lesson for me personally is, 'Always have faith in your fellow citizens'.

    • I live in Calgary. It comes hard.

      Lots of very smart, hard-working people here, no doubt.. but a lot of willful blindness when it comes to politics and larger issues. Folks here tend to be the sort who put their head down and get to work.. unfortunately that means they don't often put their head up and look at where they're going long term.

      • Seems to be the norm in primary resource based economies. I work in a Northern Ontario Municipality and whenever I start talking about the Parliament's contempt charge everyone's eyes glaze over.

        Scary thought; someone in charge of payroll asked me why the Government would accuse itself of contempt.

  3. These results should be reflected in the election, as they speak directly to the effectiveness (or lack of it) of Harper's attempts to deceive the voters about the "need" for a "stable majority"; you can't fool all of the people all of the time (just your base).

  4. But I thought the justification for this current election was that lots of elections are good for democracy, no?

    • It wasn't, and you didn't.

    • We've had lots of elections. Now it's time for democracy.

      • So this election was unnecessary for democracy?

        • I was just being pithy. Voting is just one part of democracy, and I'm sure we'll see additional elements of democracy starting Tuesday morning.

          • Drop the lisp, and you'll be Dennis.

          • Drop the substantive, courageous, and well thought out remarks on here, and you'll be this halo character. lol. Next.

          • But please don't drop the lol. Next. It's so you.

          • Yes, they're very effective in dealing with knee-jerk reactionary posters, aren't they. If people post substance, I don't use them. lol. next.

          • Doesn't that put you in a recursive loop?

    • Replacing a government that doesn't respect Parliament is good for democracy. I'd think we'd want to do it as infrequently as possible, but as frequently as necessary.

      • So it's only good for democracy when it's good for you. Which, of course, is the exact opposite of democracy. Gotchya.

  5. No, it was directed at Mark and the general reaction of most Conservatives and Liberals. I really dislike the NDP, and don't want them to win, but I also don't buy the hyperbolic 'they'll wreck the country' stuff.

  6. It wasn't:

    The justification for this current election is the fact that the government was found in contempt of Parliament.

    You didn't:

    From your post on another thread: "why was the vote on the 'contempt' charges moved to the day before the vote on the budget? Precisely because it was used as an excuse to force this fourth $300 million election in seven years."

    You're welcome.

    • So there was only one justification for an election given by others, and one by myself? This is your preposterous position, is it?

      • Huh? How many justifications does an election need?

        A government in contempt in Parliament is more than enough justification for an election. That's not really preposterous. Pretty straightforward, I would think.

        • Well, one of them given over and over again is that the very act of having an election, even the fourth in seven years, is good for democracy, and that people in the Middle East would dream of such, so on and so forth. Are you denying this? And I don't care what justification you focused on. Of course many others were given. Probably by you, too.

          • Elections are good for democracy because they give an opportunity for the government to be accountable to the people, and for people to choose the direction they want the country to go. Overly frequent elections can be bad for democracy, because if you have back-to-back elections until you get the result you want, people eventually acquiesce, or loose interest, and no longer vote based on their actual interests, or at all. It's been 2.5 years since the last election, which is enough time for the situation to actually progress, and there were some key political issues on the table. The last election, need I remind you, was called by Stephen Harper because he thought he could get a majority, not because of any political issues or a mandatory election date. If another election were called next month because Stephen Harper didn't get his majority, that would be abusive of democracy since people would just get so frustrated they might just vote for him to get the elections done with.

          • It's very simple actually. The parliament is elected by the people. It makes the big decisions, and then passes these orders to the government to implement.The Government governs according to the will of Parliament, and by extension the people. No more, no less.

            When the Government is no longer answering to Parliament, when it acts on its own and refuses to comply to the will of Parliament and by extension the people, it held in contempt and loses the confidence of Parliament.

            To say this election is unnecessary is to say it's ok to let people run away with your money without any kind of accountability to your will.

  7. Should the Liberals find themselves the third party in a hung Parliament after May 2nd, it would certainly be in their best interests to lend their support to the Conservatives (however tepid it might be) rather than to the NDP. Alternatively, were the Liberals to hand happy Jack Layton the keys to 24 Sussex, that would surely be tantamount to signing the death warrant of the Liberal party. As Hobbes well understood, the law of self-preservation is the ultimate trump card. There are only two plausible outcomes to Monday's election: 1) a Tory majority or 2) a Tory minority supported by the Grits. They have no other option.

    • You know, there are many Canadians who are tied to their party brands, but there are more who don't care what the party is called, but rather care more about the vision, personality and policies. I identify as Liberal, but I will vote NDP when I think it's warranted. Yesterday I spoke to a friend who's a committed NDP, and she said she would welcome a merger of centre/left. You know, maybe there's the same kind of flexibility from centre – left as there was proven to be for the centre/right PCs and Reformists. Lots of shades of grey, and maybe people don't care if they call it grey or charcoal or taupe — it's just a related shade. The name of the party itself matters less to Joe and Jane Voter, and more to those closely involved in the business of the politics. Just ask those former PCs and Liberals currently forming government as the Saskatchewan Party…

      But what's clear is that most Canadians do not want the Cons in power, minority or majority. Why the Liberals or NDP, whoever is third party, would choose to align with an unpopular and dying brand is a mystery to me. They will want to align as winners in beating down the harpers.

      • After the 1993 election, the PC Party was badly divided on what its response should be to such a thorough shellacking. Hope they fade away on their own, like Social Credit? Hug them to death, like King did to the Progressives in the 20s and the CCF in the 40s? Merge? If the Grits really do fall into third place on election night, that party will be badly divided as well, and may take as long or longer to recover as it took the Tories.

  8. Ah, I see that with just one posting (see above) my rating has gone from +49 down to -36. Plainly a badge of honour!

    • But in order for that to happen, you would have a negative comment rating – and yours is reading +1.

    • Nah that's a glitch in the algorithm old boy. Nothing to worry about. The big bright red mark sure does makes me associate you with the Liberal Party of Canada though.

      hee hee….

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