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Conservative nation


 

Conservative parties could be on the verge of claiming a majority of the country’s legislative seats.

“Right now, we have 481 seats out of 1,023 federal and provincial ridings, based on the most recent election or by-election in each,” said Wexler, who first presented this tally — and the challenge — to special Manning Centre briefings at last June’s federal Conservative convention in Ottawa. “So, to achieve half, or 512, there would need to be a net gain of 31 seats,” he says.

Another way to look at this: If the Progressive Conservatives win in Ontario and Manitoba (the two provinces most likely to change next month), every province west of Quebec will be represented by a conservative premier. Overall, conservatives would lead seven provinces—the Liberals two and the NDP one—and represent about 73% of the population.


 

Conservative nation

  1. It’s reassuring to see that most of the country is moving in the right direction.

    • So the right direction is a one party banana republic.

    • Dog whistle racism works!  Yay Canada.

    • Well it makes sense. We’ve had nearly a generation for people to forget what it’s like when they’re in power.

      • Harper will be hard-pressed to reach Mulroney’s goal of 12% unemployment.  Not that he won’t try.

  2. If it happens, I do look forward to continued whining at the provincial level about how electoral reform is desperately needed, what with the elected government not reflecting the personal preferences of those who care deeply about electoral reform.

  3. I wish there was something to be optimistic over here for our Provincial Election but it’s either the incompetent Liberals or the depressingly bad PC’s.
    Both seam to believe that we should be bought with money that isn’t there. Leadership  is in short supply with the younger generations seeking opportunities away from home.

    • Are you talking about PEI or Ontario?

    • Vote rhino!
      If there isn’t a chapter in your province, start one!

  4. Why is it that people love to forget the word “Progressive” in front of “Conservative?”  Why is it that people believe that a Liberal government is a liberal government?  The Liberals have shown themselves to be just as, or even more, conservative in government as/than any Progressive Conservative government.

    • Because “Progressive” is a vestigial holdover from merger with the Progressive Party, who, like the rest of the progressive movement of the early 20th century, bear little resemblance to the modern meaning of the word. It was smart to ditch it at the federal level, and the provincial parties should consider it too.

      • So it’s like the word ‘Royal’? Got it.

      • “Conservative” is also a vestige. There’s not much conservative about any Canadian political party that has that word in its name.

  5. I just saw a preview of Peter Mansbridge interviewing Stephen Harper.  Yesterday, I saw Mansbridge interviewing Olivia Chow.  In both interviews, he squats forward in his chair.  It must be the new interview style of getting up close and personal.

  6. Here’s hoping! Neither the nation, nor most provinces can afford anymore “progressive” government.

    • Yes, how horrible it would be to have more progressive government like from 1998 – 2006 when we accumulated 12 billion dollars in surplus.

      • systemic surplus = systemic over taxation. You’ll also notice how none of those “progressive” governments ever returned a dime of those surpluses to the people who earned them. It took a Conservative government for that to happen.

        • First, until the debt is gone, your point is completely idiotic.  That is, unless you believe it is the public’s duty to support financiers.

          Second, I find it funny how many “conservative” people seem unable to understand the, some would say conservative, principle of putting aside money during good times so that when bad times come along, we have a nest-egg to draw from.  They bitch if the government pulls in more than it puts out, and then bitch when the government puts out more than it pulls in. The only thing left to believe is that these people are religious nut-jobs who think that a miracle will occur allowing budgets to exactly balance. 

          Third, the only government to have returned a “dime” of a surplus that I’m aware of is Klein’s PC government, in a move that was panned by pretty much everyone, because instead of using that money and the leverage it provided by being able to be concentrated and thus see economies of scale, instead he split it up among the people and the net effect to our economy was somewhere between zero and squat.  Yeah, terribly useful.

          • Your first point is simply wrong. There is nothing wrong with having some debt. Every business, and government, has to eventually borrow money at some point for larger investments. As long as servicing that debt is manageable, I see no problem with it. And I’ll ignore your baseless attack on “financiers”, seeing as it’s moot point.

            I would agree with your second point. But unfortunately the Liberals didn’t “sock away” much of the surplus, they simply spent it every year in a feeble attempt to buy the public’s goodwill. A truly fiscally responsible government would lower taxes when the tax base grows as much/fast as it did in the 90’s. The LPC did nothing of the sort. They squandered it on spending that couldn’t possibly sustained in the long-run. It has nothing to do with religion, it’s basic economics.
            As to your third point, the current PC’s have cut all kinds of taxes. That’s not “returning” money to the taxpayer, granted, but it does right a wrong. No government can undo the mistakes of previous governments, but correcting them should be a priority.

          • What baseless attack? I asked if you thought it was the public’s duty to support financiers. If you can tell me how that’s an attack on financiers I’d love to hear it. I suspect you’re more ignoring it because it’s one of those inconvenient facts that conflicts with your world-view.

            Unfortunately, once again you appear to be living in a reality that has little conjunction with our own. To say Liberals didn’t sock away much of the surplus is to ignore that there was a 12 billion dollar surplus available for the CPC to demolish in the two years following their first election. A truly fiscally responsible government would in fact raise taxes when the tax base grows as fast as it did in the 90s in order to slow unsustainable growth rates and build reserves to prepare for the inevitable collapse of those unsustainable growth rates around the world.

            So now that we’ve shown you didn’t know what you were talking about when you said they were returning money, you move the goalposts. Fine. In that case I’ll ask you to kindly outline the “all kinds” of taxes you’re assuming the CPC has cut. Off the top of my head, I’ve got two, the GST and the general corporate rate. I’ll also point out that in that time they’ve raised the CPP and employment tax rate, and cancelled the cut to income taxes that Martin had planned.

  7. It took awhile to recover from the PET lobotomy Canada was subjected to but it looks like we’ve finally grown back at least half of our brain. 

     

     

    • Tell me, what part of the brain is it that says, “Surplus bad, deficit good”? because that seems to be the part that pushes the CPC forward.

      • Probably close to the part that says, “Big governemnet bad, low taxes good.”

        But don’t worry, someday you’ll grow a brain too.

        • No, that can’t be it, because under the CPC, we haven’t gotten either. Government’s gotten bigger, and when you include unemployment and CPP dues in the mix, taxes higher.

        • Government has never been bigger.

  8. I don’t think there is anything even remotely small-c “conservative” about the provincial Tories in the four Atlantic Provinces, which contain 182 of the total number of legislative seats, and 75 of the ones up for grabs this fall.

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