The defeatist's guide to Senate reform -

The defeatist’s guide to Senate reform

Brad Wall vs. Tom Flanagan


The Senate should be abolished because reform is never going to happen.

On the other hand, the Senate should be reformed because abolition is unrealistic.


The defeatist’s guide to Senate reform

  1. Or, since both those options are hard, we can do nothing at all.

    How much you wanna bet we end up picking that option?

  2. One of the lessons in life that separates the young from the – shall we say more mature – is that you have to learn how to pick your battles. The Senate will not be reformed in any truly meaningful way and can not be abolished without a revolution and becoming a republic. The trough will always be there and the only real issue is the size of the porcines.

    • We won’t need a revolution and a switch to being a republic….let’s not get carried away.

      • wrong – that is the only way it could or would happen and by definition if we unilaterally eliminate the head of state we are a ‘ Republic ‘
        A republic is a form of government in which affairs of state are a “public matter” (Latin: res publica), not the private concern of the rulers. In a republic, public offices are appointed or elected rather than inherited, and are not de jure the private property of the individuals who hold them. In modern times, a common simplified definition of a republic is a government where the head of state is not a monarch.[1][2] Currently, 135 of the world’s 206 sovereign states use the word “republic” as part of their official names.

        • I think you need to go lie down with a cold cloth on your forehead.

          We don’t need a monarch. The members of the Order of Canada can quietly search for and find a qualified GG to serve for 5 years at a time.

          No revolution required.

          • wrong Emily – sorry – you just don’t get it – I suggest you search Wikipedia and read carefully the section on ‘ Royal Assent ‘ you see our court system can not recognize any bill as law unless it receives Royal Assent .. case closed and period on this one Emily – we can not say sorry be gone – the moment we do we turn into a republic because if any one objects to the courts and the courts by law would have to accept the claim therefore nullifying any new law unless and here is the only option the King or Queen signs off – and even then it gets interesting because our only option is to get a new king or queen to sign the law! You see Emily your are looking at our system from a culturally current so called modern perspective where you don’t realize that our laws have to be processed in a certain fashion and there is no option except a revolution and off with the monarchs head.

          • Sigh….when you remove a monarchy you remove all the things connected with it.

            So ‘royal assent’ gets changed to ‘GG assent’

            It doesn’t require any beheading.