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The Ignatieff 46


 

The Ignatieff campaign has just released a list of 46 Liberal MPs who endorse Ignatieff. They’ve each supplied a sentence or two attesting to Mr. Ignatieff’s relative awesomeness, but here, for the sake of brevity, is the list.

Scott Andrews, Larry Bagnell, Navdeep Bains, Mauril Belanger, Maurizio Bevilacqua, Gerry Byrne, John Cannis, Siobhan Coady, Denis Coderre, Bonnie Crombie, Jean-Claude D’Amours, Sukh Dhaliwal, Kirsty Duncan, Wayne Easter, Raymonde Folco, Judy Foote, Marc Garneau, Albina Guarnieri, Mark Holland, Andrew Kania, Jim Karygiannis, Dominic LeBlanc, Derek Lee, Gurbax Malhi, Keith Martin, John McCallum, David McGuinty, John McKay, Dan McTeague, Maria Minna, Rob Oliphant, Glen Pearson, Yasmin Ratansi, Geoff Regan, Pablo Rodriguez, Todd Russell, Francis Scarpaleggia, Mario Silva, Scott Simms, Michelle Simson, Judy Sgro, Paul Szabo, Alan Tonks, Frank Valeriote, Bryon Wilfert, Lise Zarac.

Including Mr. Ignatieff himself, that leaves just 30 other Liberal MPs. According to Wikipedia’s Liberal leadership page, six MPs—Hedy Fry, Lawrence MacAulay, Shawn Murphy, Mike Savage, Alexandra Mendes and Gerard Kennedy—support Bob Rae. (Note: I’m told that Kennedy endorsement isn’t certain.) That would get the total commitments to 54, leaving 23 unaccounted for. They are as follows.

Carolyn Bennett, Scott Brison, Irwin Cotler, Rodger Cuzner, Ruby Dhalla, Stephane Dion, Ujjal Dosanjh, Ken Dryden, Mark Eyking, Ralph Goodale, Martha Hall Findlay, Marlene Jennings, Peter Milliken, Brian Murphy, Joyce Murray, Anita Neville, Massimo Pacetti, Bernard Patry, Marcel Proulx, Anthony Rota, Justin Trudeau, Joe Volpe, Borys Wrzesnewskyj.

Which is all to say that a lot of prominent Liberals—several of whom could be looking at cabinet positions in a Liberal or coalition cabinet—remain free agents.


 

The Ignatieff 46

  1. Interesting.

    But what is puzzling is why would Iggy be so desperate as to pull a fast-Harper on his own party? With the ciritical endorsements of Malhi and Coderre behind him, shouldn’t Iggy be a shoe-in for the leadership with actual people voting?

    Or does Crown Prince Ignatieff not trust the ability of the members of his Liberal Party to fully appreciate the enormity of his intellect and winnability?

  2. It is all about the key Joe Volpe endorsement.

  3. Gerard Kennedy sure knows how to pick a winner…

  4. Yes, Stephen, along with Jimmy Karygiannis and Mark Holland, Volpe makes it a trifecta!

  5. Well, why wouldn’t anybody want the Volpe youth $-brigade…

  6. My guess is the 46 are endorsing a quick resolution, whereas Rae needs more time — time they don’t have. LeBlanc steps out, leaves Rae holding the candle knowing that pulling a Harper may not run smoothly with ‘the people’. If that ain’t pressure urrhhhumhhh I mean Politiics…

  7. The names on that list makes me all the more certain Iggy should never win.

  8. Iggy is worried that Rae will blitz the membership signup, flood the Libs with stealth Dippers and then fold the liberal party into the NDP!

  9. I imagine that Brison will go for the front-funner. But imagine if a team of big guns – Dryden, Brison, Dosanjh, Cotler, Goodale, Trudeau – came out against the caucus-decides idea. That would be something.

  10. As Andrew Steele pointed out a few days ago in the g&m 69 is the magic number including senators…iggy may not yet have enough locked in?

  11. I’m lost here. Is Manley going to be a factr? Or was AC just jerking our collective chains.

  12. The Liberals need to learn how to find a middle ground between coronations and clusterf***s when it comes to leadership races.

  13. What is Iggy’s rush? When you rush into things you have to agree to stupid things that come back later, to haunt you! Why it seems like just yesterday that Iggy, Rae-less and LeBlank were giving ringing endorsements of their Liberal hugginess with each other and the NDPBlocheads, and now it seems Iggy thinks it’s all icky and he never was a “blood-brother” and he didn’t inhale on the peace pipe session! What really peez me off is that these a-holes were willing to foist Dion the Magnificent upon the country, but now it isn’t a good idea? In fact Dion the M cannot even be fit enough to be pi$$ boy at their royal meetings, until a king is crowned? I am really disgusted with this pathetic rabble that calls themselves “Liberals”!!!

  14. From which group would you rather make a cabinet, the 46 or the 30? I think it’s pretty clear the 30 has the preponderance of talent.

  15. Wonder how the delegates of the Liberal party feel with this soon to be appointment of King Iggy. This is exactly what Layton, Duceppe and Dion tried to do to the people of Canada. Shove a leader/coalition down our throats that no one voted for, or a man that no one would ever except.as Prime Minister. It doesn’t feel good, does it? Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot!

  16. kc I think Manley has stated his position and he’s keeping his head down until Ignatieff’s “confirmation” in May.

  17. Wonder how the delegates of the Liberal party feel with this soon to be appointment of King Iggy. This is exactly what Layton, Duceppe and Dion tried to do to the people of Canada. Shove a leader/coalition down our throats that no one voted for, or a man that no one would ever except.as Prime Minister. It doesn’t feel good, does it? Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot!

  18. I nkow a number in that list. Several that I am surprised are on it. A number I still respect despite their presence there. Some who I frankly believe would sell out at any price!
    I once thought membership in the Liberal party had a value. To be invited to be a candidate used to be an honour. I’m not sure some of the names here really deserve that honour. I would not vote for them.
    This caucus -as a collective – has to do something to raise itself above its lesser parts. I hope that it regognizes – on Wednesday or before – that it works for us the grassroots of the party – and not the other way around!

  19. Steve w
    I’m not sure. Manley puzzles me. As a centrist he would be my guy. But i don’t think he’ll run at all. Tht’s life a guess, never tell the truth at an inconvnient moment. Iggy may stand as a surrogate, but they will never forgive the one who dared to say speak the unvarnished truth.

  20. All politicians lie. Speak the truth however, especially in public. And a special place shall be reserved for you in political hell. oh well there’s always the real world.

  21. I don’t think that Milliken will support anyway, it would be seen as to impartial for the speaker of the house. I could be wrong, but I thought they tried to remain mostly neutral in all things political while in the office. In return, all parties are supposed to try and help the speaker out with constituents needs, etc….

  22. Hey,this is how Iggy plays the game.
    Remember how how he pushed his way to the front of the line in his riding?
    There ‘s no word “democratic” in Ignatieff.
    His American brothers have taught him that democracy(forced) is for the good of the country(which ever country it may be)

  23. Is anybody else getting tired of Jim Karygiannis and his pronouncements on CBC about the “serious business” that is Liberal politics? I first noticed it after the last election, when he opined that the campaign was run badly, many of his “friends” lost their seats, and he thought that Dion did not understand “the serious business” that they were involved in. I think he epitomizes the status quo “entitlement” MP, and the Liberal party will never be credible holding on to Jim K. and his ilk.

    I really get the feeling that his main goal in life is to stay elected and get as many of his friends as possible elected. Which would be okay if he actually acheived anything as a parliamentarian, but really? SEVEN terms, and he’s only gotten as far as Parliamentary Secretary to the Ministry of Transport. He must be a hell of a fundraiser!

  24. The Conservative trolls in on this conversation are really amusing. Especially Darryl. The joke here is that the Conservatives have no idea what a leadership race is all about–as if Ignatieff and Rae are suddenly mortal enemies instead of two capable men, both of which feel they are the right man for the party at this time. They may never be great friends, but hey, if Barack and Hillary can work together, I’m quite sure Ignatieff and Rae can, too.

    The Conservatives, on the other hand, don’t HAVE two capable men. Or women.

  25. Anon writes, “With the ciritical endorsements of Malhi and Coderre behind him, shouldn’t Iggy be a shoe-in for the leadership with actual people voting?”

    Not necessarily. In Alberta, after Ralph Klein retired, front-runner Jim Dinning had almost all the Tory caucus behind him. But when it came to the ridiculous one-man, one-vote, preferential ballot system, he lost the race to the incredibly dull Ed Stelmach. The federal Liberals use the same voting system for their leadership, and it’s designed to spit out the “compromise candidate” AKA the guy who is dull and unremarkable and usually bumbling.

    Ed is the Alberta Tories’ version of Stephane Dion. Right down to the boring, uninspiring, clownish backwardness. Granted, he won a majority in his first election as leader, whereas Dion fell flat on his ass. But luckily for Ed, he had two (and only TWO) key differences from Dion: (a) he was made the leader of a rich party in power, not a damaged party in opposition; and (b) there was no credible alternative to vote for. Dion, on the other hand, inherited a discredited party in debt, and he went up against Harper – definitely a credible, if not totally ideal, alternative.

    So yeah, good on the Liberals if they cancel the clusterf*** that would be their leadership race. One man, one vote, preferential ballot systems suck. Dion is proof of that. So is Alberta’s Ed. If I were Ignatieff, I’d be lining up the soliders, going around that awful system and staging the coup right now.

    And shame on Bob Rae. What an arrogant ass. How could he possibly think that Ontarians – Liberal, NDP, or other – would elect him as PM after the way he screwed just about everybody in that province when he was Premier. He even alienated the NDP voters who originally elected him.

  26. Actually I wonder if there is such a good thing as an optimal outcome in a leadership race.

    I agree that the last Liberal leadership race was bad for business – it created a situation where either the leader would likely not have a strong base in the party, or if Iggy won, the leader would be extremely polarizing. That said, coronations are also bad.

    Paul Martin’s coronation was terrible for the Liberals because they needed the rejuvenation of debate and dialog. I think in many ways, Martin’s sub-par premiership (especially considering what a great minister of finance he was) was the result of a lack of debate within the party.

    I theorize that the best races are first ballot wins, with a decent second candidate (say 55% to 35%, with some lesser candidates). They give the winner a clear mandate and deter petty leadership challenges, but they also force the ultimate winner to engage in debate and dialogue.

    Leaders by first ballot support, arbitrary rating of how well they did in next election relative to polls when they became leader (5 = avg), party unity rating
    Dion, 18%, 1, 3
    Harper, 56% (2004), 7, 10
    Martin, 94%, 3, 3
    Layton, 53.5%, 7, 10
    Clark, 48.5% (1998), 5, 5
    Alexa, 32.6%, 7, 4
    Charest, 95%, 7, 7
    Campbell, 47.9%, 1, 5
    Chretien, 56.8%, 7, 3
    Audrey, 26.9%, 1, 5
    Turner, 46%, 1, 3
    Mulroney, 29%, 10, 7
    Clark, 11.7% (1976), 5, 3
    Broadbent, 33.1%, 7, 10
    Lewis, 63.1% 7, 5
    Trudeau, 31.4%, 7, 7
    Stanfield, 23.2%, 3, 5

    For the record there don’t seem to be any statistically significant findings in there…

  27. Well, hey – we all know both of them – campaigning necessary?

    Ignatieff came second even after the Kennedy production.

    Dion didn’t work out so perhaps second winner should have a try – and save money and anger.

    Rae came in 4th and pouted and got angry and is bitter (bad manners and lack of statesmanship) – not a good sign for a leader – as we know. We already have a pouty, petty PM.

    Iggy lost – got up and made a terrific party unit speech – showed statesmanship.

  28. “And shame on Bob Rae. What an arrogant ass. How could he possibly think that Ontarians – Liberal, NDP, or other – would elect him as PM after the way he screwed just about everybody in that province when he was Premier. He even alienated the NDP voters who originally elected him.”

    Thank God someone finally said it.

    “Well, hey – we all know both of them – campaigning necessary?

    Ignatieff came second even after the Kennedy production.”

    Agreed!- the only reason Rae wants to drag this out is because he has nowhere to go but up. I believe he is the only Liberal in Canada who could possibly benefit from dragging this out.

  29. Seems fair to me – the pressure is there because that is what the caucus wants —
    I am sure most remember Rae as leader.
    To bad Leblanc isn’t running, heard him speak for the first time – surprised to say the least.

  30. The list will grow to 47 once Iggy himself signs. He’s always slow to put his signature on this type of thing.

  31. Doesn’t matter anymore… Rae’s out… Iggy’s got the crown

  32. could be some interesting times
    in Canada when the provincial
    parties start forming coalitions
    the liberals in ontario did not
    win the 2007 election.
    liberals got 42.2%
    conservativd 31.6
    ndp16.8%%
    green 8.0%
    56.6 % of ontarions voted against the liberals

  33. Why so much cynicsm/bad blood about M.I.? I think he would make a fine P.M.

  34. Dec 10, 2008 2:55
    “could be some interesting times
    in Canada when the provincial
    parties start forming coalitions
    the liberals in ontario did not
    win the 2007 election.
    liberals got 42.2%
    conservativd 31.6
    ndp16.8%%
    green 8.0%
    56.6 % of ontarions voted against the liberals”

    And in that there is no party whose main platform is to take Northern Ontario out of Ontario there is a closer correlation of party platforms/ideals among the Ontario Cons/NDP/Green than the federal Lib/NDP/Bloc.

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