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What they should have known


 

The Harper government is once more seeking to limit the purview of the Military Police Complaints Commission.

The federal government already argued successfully in 2009 that the findings should be limited to what military cops knew or could be reasonably expected to know, but now Ottawa is challenging the definition of what the military police should have known. The federal government wants to narrow the definition so that it includes only information the military police would have physically possessed — such as being copied on an email — instead of what they may have been able to find out by asking questions.


 

What they should have known

  1. And not just any questions but the basic questions that should be a ROUTINE PART OF THE JOB.

  2. And not just any questions but the basic questions that should be a ROUTINE PART OF THE JOB.

    • Says who? You? But you're nothing but a LibBot, a hack paid by the party to troll these boards and dis the Cons. Thanks for your two cents you party hack!

      • And here, ladies and gentleman, is a perfect representative of the intelligence of the average neo-con. Always contributing to the debate with clear, thoughtful and wise measured responses. LOL. How very sad they are.

      • sounds like Stephen Harper is talking through you. This is Un-canadian and the conservatives needs to know Canadians are easily manipulated as Stephen Harper thinks. A new Canadian government is coming

  3. OK, I sort of get this argument, but worry that it could expand the use of the Mulroney "you didn't ask the right question" defence

  4. OK, I sort of get this argument, but worry that it could expand the use of the Mulroney "you didn't ask the right question" defence

    • What's the opposite of accountability?

      Welcome to the big blue tent

  5. What's the opposite of accountability?

    Welcome to the big blue tent

  6. Says who? You? But you're nothing but a LibBot, a hack paid by the party to troll these boards and dis the Cons. Thanks for your two cents you party hack!

  7. Anything to avoid taking responsibility for what they do.

    The complete opposite of what Cons promised their supporters.

  8. There is an enormous body of law regarding what standards a professional must meet in undertaking their duties, I suggest you avail yourself of it.

    This conversation is over.

  9. So, is the conversation over?

  10. So, is the conversation over?

      • Is this where I start calling you names?

  11. Is this where I start calling you names?

  12. Can we get this in 44pt font somewhere?

    Harper Hiding from Military Police

    I think it'd be appropriate.

  13. What's the opposite of accountability?

    The Harper Government (TM)

  14. Well, to be fair, he is only wants to treat the Military Police the same way he treats ordinary citizens.

  15. Well, to be fair, he is only wants to treat the Military Police the same way he treats ordinary citizens.

  16. From CBC;

    Canada's former chief of defence staff Rick Hillier slammed a diplomat's testimony that all detainees transferred by Canadians to Afghan prisons were likely tortured by Afghan officials, saying it's "ludicrous."

    Hillier also told the House of Commons committee investigating the issue that is it was "absolutely false" to say he saw Richard Colvin's 2006 reports alleging abuse during his time as Canada's top soldier.

    But Hillier said that the reports, which he subsequently reviewed, contain no warnings of the suspected torture.

    He said the reports, written in May and June 2006, "said nothing about abuse, nothing about torture or anything else that would have caught my attention or indeed the attention of others."

    "There was no reason based on what was in those reports for anybody to bring it to my attention and after having read that, I'm absolutely confident that was indeed the case," Hillier said Wednesday.

    The retired general appeared before the committee joined by Maj.-Gen. David Fraser, who led troops on the ground in Kandahar, and Lt.-Gen. Michel Gauthier, who was responsible for overseas deployments in 2006.

  17. From CBC;

    Canada's former chief of defence staff Rick Hillier slammed a diplomat's testimony that all detainees transferred by Canadians to Afghan prisons were likely tortured by Afghan officials, saying it's "ludicrous."

    Hillier also told the House of Commons committee investigating the issue that is it was "absolutely false" to say he saw Richard Colvin's 2006 reports alleging abuse during his time as Canada's top soldier.

    But Hillier said that the reports, which he subsequently reviewed, contain no warnings of the suspected torture.

    He said the reports, written in May and June 2006, "said nothing about abuse, nothing about torture or anything else that would have caught my attention or indeed the attention of others."

    "There was no reason based on what was in those reports for anybody to bring it to my attention and after having read that, I'm absolutely confident that was indeed the case," Hillier said Wednesday.

    The retired general appeared before the committee joined by Maj.-Gen. David Fraser, who led troops on the ground in Kandahar, and Lt.-Gen. Michel Gauthier, who was responsible for overseas deployments in 2006.

    • Rick Hillier was a central figure in a flawed agreement regarding prisoners-of-war (or in newspeak terms – the transfer of detainees) . The agreement was basically an understanding to ignore all human rights and accountability because this was "a war on terror". Geneva conventions be damned.

      Rick Hillier is a case study in the art of covering your butt. Never admit a mistake.

      Hillier is a retired general, with a lot of ribbons on his chest, a big mouth, and a book on sale that tells it like it was.

      But in my opinion, he is also a coward.

  18. Why did the chicken cross the road? So he wouldn't have to debate Ignatieff.

    Why did the chicken cross the road? So he could blame his goons.

    Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Tim Pawlenty did.

    Why did the chicken cross the road? To hide from Afghan detainees being tortured

  19. Why did the chicken cross the road? So he wouldn't have to debate Ignatieff.

    Why did the chicken cross the road? So he could blame his goons.

    Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Tim Pawlenty did.

    Why did the chicken cross the road? To hide from Afghan detainees being tortured

  20. And here, ladies and gentleman, is a perfect representative of the intelligence of the average neo-con. Always contributing to the debate with clear, thoughtful and wise measured responses. LOL. How very sad they are.

  21. I am so very tired of this divisive, lying, vindictive horror of a government.

  22. I am so very tired of this divisive, lying, vindictive horror of a government.

  23. Rick Hillier was a central figure in a flawed agreement regarding prisoners-of-war (or in newspeak terms – the transfer of detainees) . The agreement was basically an understanding to ignore all human rights and accountability because this was "a war on terror". Geneva conventions be damned.

    Rick Hillier is a case study in the art of covering your butt. Never admit a mistake.

    Hillier is a retired general, with a lot of ribbons on his chest, a big mouth, and a book on sale that tells it like it was.

    But in my opinion, he is also a coward.

  24. sounds like Stephen Harper is talking through you. This is Un-canadian and the conservatives needs to know Canadians are easily manipulated as Stephen Harper thinks. A new Canadian government is coming

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