‘You have your law, we have ours’


The government has tabled another 6,200 pages of detainee documents today. As with last week’s documents, these were not reviewed by Justice Frank Iacobucci, the respected jurist theoretically hired to do just that and cited yesterday by the Justice Minister as the solution to the government’s current standoff with Parliament.

Meanwhile, CBC gets hold of an uncensored report about Afghan attempts to block detainee inspections.

The Afghan human rights agency was appointed by Canada to be its eyes and ears in Afghan prisons at the time. The rights group was supposed to help ensure the safety of detainees who had been transferred from Canadian troops to the Afghans. The Afghan security service, the NDS, took those detainees from the Canadians. The uncensored version of the document states there were “… five failed attempts to access Kandahar NDS facilities in 2007.”

The document says the NDS response on detainee access was often, “You have your law, we have ours.” It says Afghan human rights experts “discussed the access problem with [Afghan] President [Hamid] Karzai … however, this did not help.”


‘You have your law, we have ours’

  1. So, are these docs outside Iacobucci's mandate, or is he being systematically humiliated?

  2. What we are seeing here is another small step in the Government's efforts to avoid the risk of Ministers of the Crown being charged with violations of the Geneva Conventions on torture. First they stonewalled the Military Complaints Commission, then they tried to throw Colvin under the bus and now it's the military's turn. Rick Hillier better get lawyered up if he hasn't done so already.

  3. Conservative gamesmanship. Over and over and over and over again……..

  4. I believe that this document was turned over to Parliament before Iacobucci could review it, in order that it would make the press this week.

    If it had gone to Iacobucci's office, it wouldn't see the light of day until…say…September.

    • Clearly I should have indicated September of which *year*.

      2013, for the record.

  5. If only the NDS and our Attorney General weren't using the same excuse.

  6. A big release by the Conservatives of a pile of redacted documents related to the Afghan detainee issue? Clearly a harbinger of a long holiday weekend.

  7. This is the government's idea of an Easter Egg Hunt.

  8. 2013? Put the end of the world is in 2012. How could we get an answer if… oh I get it, the Government is hoping for the end of the world to occur before Lacobucci is done reviewing the documents. It all make sense now.

  9. If Hillier had a problem with detainee (aka: scumbag) abuse, it probably would have been there was not enough of it going on.

    Like the Conservative Ministers, he received all the reports from soldiers in the field who did care about what was going on, and who advised caution and concern. In response, Hillier did nothing.

    He deserves what's coming. And yes, I think it will all come unraveled in due course, despite the stonewalling and delays.

    The odd thing about "crimes" is that perpetrators always think they will get away with them, but they usually don't. I think that's the realization setting in right now within the Government, and among some in the senior levels of the military.

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