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Freshly returned from the Hill and just received an official-looking press release from the Governor General’s office. New Order of Canada appointments and, yes, Dr. Morgentaler is among them. Here’s the citation.

Henry Morgentaler, C.M.
Toronto, Ontario
Member of the Order of Canada

For his commitment to increased health care options for women, his determined efforts to influence Canadian public policy and his leadership in humanist and civil liberties organizations.

Obviously it’s inconvenient to impose statistics on this debate (and there’s a fine one going on over at Potter’s place), but Angus Reid surveyed the Canadian public just a couple weeks ago. Here’s what they found.

Fully 46% of Canadians think abortion should be permitted in all cases. Another 19% think it should be permitted, but with unspecified restrictions, 22% would limit it to cases of rape, incest or in order to save a woman’s life, and seven percent would allow it only when a woman’s life is at stake.

If you put the question to Canadians in terms of legality, only five percent say abortion should be outlawed. Three percent aren’t sure. No less than 91% of Canadians think the law should allow abortion in at least some form.

Strange that when Douglas Farrow decided to preemptively poo-poo this appointment he skipped these numbers in favour of some online poll at


BTC: Fine day for a debate

  1. Angus-Reid still have some ‘splainin’ to do, though. They asked an extremely loaded question about C-484, a question that read as though it had been written by Ken Epp. It repeated his illogical claims about what the bill won’t do, so of course those surveyed said what they thought was the nice thing to say.

    Our pollsters are so mindless.

  2. I don’t care if 99% of Canadians think the Baby Butcher, Morgentaler, should get the Order of Canada, I WILL NEVER AGREE WITH ANY OF THEM.
    Murder is murder, in the womb, or out of the womb and one day, after the birth, Morgentaler and the mother would be dragged off to Court, where our lax Judges would give them a slap on the wrists and send them back, to do more of the same. If Morgentaler is without taint…not a criminal, then let Paul Bernardo and all of the other KILLERS out of prison…give them a medal and we can continue to hang our dumb heads in shame and look like MONSTERS, around the world. How dare we pretend to be so GREAT. How dare we point fingers at the Holocaust, in Germany, or anywhere, in the world. We have our own Canadian Holocaust and if Canadians were not so selfish and Me Me Me, with MONEY, FAME, SEX and SPORTS the gods they worship, we might be able to say that we are CIVILIZED. SHAME on all those, who dare to be so bloodthirsty and uncaring.

  3. Equating Morgenthaler with Bernardo pretty much decimates your credibility Paula.

  4. Personally ,I discredit all who use that many capitals. Also, the run on sentences are very difficult to parse properly when you’re mentally translating. As to the substance of her comment (i.e., abortion is murder) I work for my priest on occasion, and even his moral rants can’t touch that. The debate isn’t on abortion. It’s on whether or not Morgentaler has contributed to Canadian society enough to warrant an OC. I know I’m not going to change you’re mind, so I’m not going to try. I’m just going to say that the passionate and visceral responses this news has ellicited proves that he has certainly had an impact.

  5. Nice rant, Paula. Now call the doctor and ask him to up your prescription to 60mg.

    Whether one is pro- or anti-choice, nobody can deny the impact Dr. Morgentaler has had on Canada. People don’t get the Order of Canada for being bland and milquetoast, but for fighting for their convictions, challenging injustice and having an impact. Few fit that bill as well as Dr. Morgentaler.