‘We never throw Jesus out’


 

Charlie Lewis investigates the proper handling of a communion wafer.

“We believe we are holding Jesus in our hands so to put Jesus in your pocket or to put Jesus on the ground [is serious]. If it falls on the ground it has to be consumed. We never throw Jesus out,” Mr. MacCarthy said. “I’ve been at services where the priest has gone to someone who has walked away with host and said I want to see you consume it. In my own parish the priest stood up one day and said he found a host in the parking lot. He was really angry.”


 

‘We never throw Jesus out’

  1. It's a bizarre combination of cannibalism and FINISH WHAT'S ON YOUR PLATE, YOUNG MAN!

  2. Do you ever stop to think that Jesus is manufactured in a factory? I used to work with someone who would get bulk orders of Jesus because she liked the taste. I guess it wasn't Jesus yet because it wasn't blessed, but whatever. Unblessed Jesus tastes pretty good for a snack, in her opinion. I think it's all a bit of overkill for something that's relatively innocuous. If Harper had slapped a baby or kicked a dog, I could see this kind of outrage. But for a communion wafer? The only one possibly hurt by this is Harper's possibly imaginary soul.

  3. I would like to repeat, as I have many, many, many times over the last day that I don't care about this issue.

    • So stop repeating yourself and move on to another topic.

  4. To be somewhat fair, due to the miracle of transubstantiation (established by the 4th Lateran council in 1215) it doesn't become the body of christ until sometime during the ritual. But they were clear that it actually does become the body at that point.

  5. Ridiculous… A wafer that is the body of a 2,000-year-old Jewish male? How can anybody say this with certainty without feeling at least some level of embarrassment?

    • You're talking about a group of people who believe there is literally an invisible man in the sky.

    • Faith

  6. What a load of superstitious hogwash. It’s a wafer of who knows what made in a factory. It doesn’t become anything else just because a man with a smoking purse waves his hands over it. The sooner this kind of crazy is called out for what it the better. And please don’t go all barking mad about “respect” and “tolerance”. Superstitious nonsense is superstitious nonsense. Prattle to the choir all you want. No one else has to give a damn about this hocus pocus.

    • Hear hear!

  7. I think it would be pretty cool to find Jesus in a parking lot.

    • Wow. ROFL!

  8. The "I don't believe in it, so it's BS and who cares?" crowd certainly is charming.

    • Aren't they, though?

  9. Wow, I never knew any of this, and I was raised Catholic. I had always seen the communion waffer as a symbolic act. I mean, I'm sure someone at some point told me I was eating Jesus, but even my young mind knew that it was just a symbol. Now let's move on to other issues.

    • And your young mind trumps centuries of theologians.

      • Maybe not, but the scientific method kinda does.

        • Oh, snap!

          • Oh, cripes!

    • But if that were true then the media wouldn't have a story!

      • You've been here for an hour and you're already so boring.

  10. So, when did the Lib-Left media take it upon themselves to be the defenders of the Catholic Church and its rituals?

    Oh right…when it's Harper who might have upset some religious folk.

  11. From what I understand, it's incredibly insulting in many Middle Eastern cultures to point the soles of your feet at somebody. As a result, the cross-legged pose that many Westerners find comfortable is, in fact, a faux-pas.

    Now, I don't think there's anything special about the soles of someone's feet, and I'm not insulted by their pointing at me. But if an Arab invites me into his house and I point my feet at him out of ignorance, I should be embarrassed if I find out. If I do it on purpose because I want to protest his ignorant superstition, I don't deserve to be welcomed into his house.

    The Catholics don't demand that you agree with their theology of communion, but they do place restrictions on who is permitted to participate in their central religious ritual. This is not unreasonable. So, Harper made a mistake, and quite likely an honest one. From what I've read, the Archbishop of Moncton wasn't seeking an apology, he was merely clarifying Catholic doctrine.

    And to all those people who take communion at Mass anyway, try to look at it as a matter of respect towards your hosts, rather than a personal affront. In response to His Shadow, you do have to give a damn about this hocus pocus if you're going to a funeral held for a Catholic, with other Catholics, held in a Catholic church. Anything less would simply be rude.

    • I totally agree up to a point, the rest is crap. You go to a funeral to pay your respects to the deceased, and the deceased's family and friends. You do not have to give a damn about the religious ceremony, although respect to the deceased and his family would include a respectful demeanour during the ceremony. It does not involve a crash course in the religion–and if he shouldn't have taken the host, it was up to the person handing it out to make that clear. Was it the Archbishop himself who conducted this ceremony? Because if so, he's the one who should be seriously chastised. I've never heard of a similar ceremony where the Priest or someone doesn't explain the requirements for taking Communion, always done most pleasantly and with an offer to come up and be blessed so as to be inclusive to all.

  12. I doubt anybody who has dropped acid would find transubstantiation very strange.

    • Some of the southwest desert aboriginals moved mountains with peyote.

      But some of them are Catholic now. Shame.

  13. National Post

    The priest who delivered the homily at the funeral mass of former governor-general Romeo LeBlanc said Stephen Harper behaved properly when he took part in the communion service last week.

    “The Prime Minister did consume the host; he did not put it in his pocket,” said Father Arthur Bourgeois, who had been a friend of Mr. LeBlanc for 30 years.