To the shredder


The information commissioner has concerns about the government’s commitment to destroy records related to the gun registry.

Suzanne Legault told a Commons committee Tuesday that a federal bill to scrap the long-gun registry – and delete millions of records – violates the letter and spirit of the Library and Archives of Canada Act.  “It does raise major concerns in terms of transparency and accountability in general,” Legault said. “As Information Commissioner, I have serious concerns about the impact this bill will have on government information management.”

Various members on the government side of the House laughed when the NDP’s Jack Harris raised this in QP. Otherwise, here’s the transcript of his exchange with Vic Toews.

Harris. Mr. Speaker, Canada’s Information Commissioner has warned the government that its bill to scrap the long gun registry and delete millions of records would violate the letter and the spirit of the Library and Archives of Canada Act. This irresponsible and illegal move would get rid of records of not only shotguns and rifles but also semi-automatic and assault rifles. The association representing Canadian archivists wrote the Minister of Public Safety telling him that destroying records for political expediency and ignoring existing legislation sets a very dangerous precedent. Why are the Conservatives willing to break the law by destroying millions of records?

Toews. Mr. Speaker, we are changing the law in order to get rid of the long gun registry which is comprised of data that targets law-abiding Canadian citizens, including hunters, sport shooters and others. We have consistently opposed this wasteful and ineffective measure which does nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. We do not want to keep records on law-abiding citizens the way that the NDP does. We are carrying out the promise that we made to the Canadian people.


To the shredder

  1. The ‘law and order’ Con govt laughs at breaking the law.

    • I think they have a new theme song “Makin’ the law, makin’ the law….” Couldn’t help that, it’s a remnant from last night’s Judas Priest concert.

  2. It’s amazing the lengths some people will go to in trying to keep honest citizens labelled as criminals.  Wouldn’t it be simpler and more accurate to just keep track of actual criminals than people who “might” be criminals based on a particular hobby or sport?  Most criminal police calls involve repeat offenders – criminals who by definition have a history of breaking the law.  The majority of these offenders are ineligible to legally posess a firearm but if they did, it would obviously NOT be in the registry.  It would still be a crime, registry or not, for criminals to possess firearms or for anyone to lend or sell them one.

    To all the people who bring up the École Polytechnique Massacre as the reason we need the registry – perhaps Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharbi (a.k.a. Marc Lépine) would have been stopped in his tracks if women were able to properly defend themselves and allowed to carry concealed weapons such as a pistol.  There is no honor in being slaughtered or raped and often the deed is done and the perpetrator gone by the time the police arrive.  Predators would think twice if there was a chance the “prey” might bite back.

    • But then why are the cons making me a criminal for converting my cds to mp3 so I can listen to them on my iPod?

      • They’re not. You can legally copy music you own for your own use as long as you only use one copy at a time, and there is no legislation that would change that.  Where do you get this BS?

    • A little internet searching will provide the answers to the “arguments” you raise.

      Look, the dumb side beat out the smart side this time and the rational people are just going to have to live with a slightly less safe society because of it. No need to rub it in.

    • Oh, yeah let’s all pack guns and the crime rate wil be reduced to zero.  This is working well in the states. 

      • Sure helped Gifford didn’t it?

        • This is going to be the next demand from the gun lobby, unfortunately. 

      • It actually DOES work very well in Switzerland.

    • Actually it is possible for a criminal to buy a weapon second hand off someone who is already licensed. This likely doesn’t happen very often but it is possible. The registry in theory at least, placed some responsibility on the licensed owner to account for the weapon and possibly acted as a deterrent from selling the old or spare rifle off.
      Why is Polytechnique always brought up as if murders and suicides do not occur elsewhere with long guns – they do.

      • Talking points and koolaid.

  3. This should have implications for government databases. Government should not be allowed to retain personal info beyond the original scope of the reason for collecting it. 
    Government should not be allowed to enact different laws or perform different actions with data that was collected for other reasons.  This would seem to be both breach of privacy and breach of contract.
    The notion that government is entitled to collect whatever personal information they want in a free society and hang onto it just in case they need it for something else is a very dangerous one. Where is the line between accumulating vast quantities of data and respecting Canadians’ right to privacy?Information is power. Police and government will never have enough of it. 

    • Then what’s up with Steve Harper’s plans for Internet spying?

  4. They’ll probably just change the Library and Archives Act to go along with it. Who needs a historical record anyway? #line{font-family:Sarcastic,NotSerious;} The past is for Liberals and their criminalizing ways!

    • Apparently Liberals don’t support the troops and they like pedophiles.

    • Did you read what Breitzkrutz said yesterday on this?  That Archives only want ACCURATE records, not duds like these…he doesn’t seem to understand what records are, or what an archives is.

  5. This is the most ridiculous BS I’ve heard in a while.  Once government has private information, they can’t get rid of it?  Is this Seinfeld or something?   The Library and Archives of Canada Act has nothing to do with the gun registry, anymore that it has anything to do with the electricity bills or the lawn-mowing schedule.  Any normally sane person knows that. It has absolutely nothing to do with the gun registry. Is there no end to this kind of BS?

    • “We do not want to keep records on law-abiding citizens the way that the NDP does.”
       I guess the police who supported the LGR as an effective policing tool are just NDP dipturds.  Vic Toews should work on ridding law enforcement of these leftist spawn lest they further endanger real “law and order”.

      • Meanwhile Harper is bringing in the most draconian surveillance laws – making ISP’s agents of the state and police able to surveil our internet messaging without obtaining a warrant. But he’s got the suckers all thrilled that they don’t have to fill out the long form census.  Or register their rifles. 

        • Only criminals use teh internets.

        • If you don’t have any thing to hide…. If you do then you’re a Liberal and you “obviously” don’t support the troops and you think pedophiles are just fine….

          That’s pretty well what I’ve gleaned since Harper became PM.

    • Do you know what an archives is, what it does, who it serves?   I mean, it’s obvious that you don’t, but take a moment to read up on it: it’s fascinating.  None of this becomes public information if the files are restricted, and those things are locked up and managed very very well.  You’re a con: think of it as a prison for documents.  That some day some historian can look at and write about the crap that Canada was becoming under harper…

      • Follow up question: are you “normally sane?”

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